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Cimorene ([personal profile] cimorene) wrote2004-02-06 02:12 am

'o' - remake of othello with josh hartnett and julia stiles

it seems like you can't go wrong with shakespeare, but for some reason, something was just giving me a bad feeling about 'o' from the moment my mom bought it almost a year ago. the fact that they wrote their own script for the modernization further endangered their quality, like think ten things i hate about you instead of romeo + juliet (and don't think clueless because i don't want any rule-disproving here).

the first ten minutes was enough to tell me how awful this movie is. it jumps in with stiff acting, weird setting, predictable plot and no exposition beyond martin sheen favoring othello over josh hartnett to explain the latter's evilitude. julia's acting might have been alright, but it wasn't shining in the midst of the dross. the badness overpowered even her--even martin sheen! my god. i had to stop watching after othello was accused of raping julia and she didn't actually deny it, and then we found out he was a druggie, and then he went and beat up josh's henchman. please, people. the pain.

[livejournal.com profile] wax_jism recommended the bounty, but nothing except someone i really, really like is worth watching mel gibson for me. if mom hooks the dvd player back up, i have bonfire of the vanities and cleopatra and south pacific to watch (not to mention the ever-present alternatives singin in the rain, pirates of the caribbean and finding nemo.)

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
man i love your icon.

ahem.

i don't remember the costumes... which means they probably weren't all that exceptional.

i just love hamlet though, so that was an added reason why i liked it. i did NOT like, however, the mel gibson version. i hate mel gibson. he was not a good hamlet.

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
ME TOO.

i can't stand mel fucking gibson!

that's part of why i love r&g, because i love hamlet so much and it's like a really wonderful fanfic.

(thanks, i'm quite taken with it too. have you read the play yet? have you-have you?)

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:06 pm (UTC)(link)
yes! there's just something about him that irritates me to no end. can't stand watching him in anything..... signs was almost good, besides HIM.

YES. That's it. it's like a really good fanfic. it is, really. that's brilliant.

i'm actually in the middle of reading it right now. i'm just at act 2. i remember quite a lot of it from the movie, vaguely, but there's some stuff i don't remember so that's really awesome. it had me giggling all afternoon. i'll probably finish it this weekend.

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
i haven't read it for like six years so i can't wait to read it again. i just have to go to the university library to get it. (i did watch it like one week ago though.)

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
i'd rather watch it. because, liek, tim roth/gary oldman. *sigh*

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. ::sigh::

but you can do both. or maybe you can't... but i can do both!

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmh.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
*grumble*

well we'll see. maybe blockbuster will come through for me.

until then i'll settle with reading it. and watching queer as folk. ^_^

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:36 pm (UTC)(link)
well, one can't have everything.

i did really like the second season. but now i have to wait for the third on dvd.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
thank you kazaa. ^_^ the quality's a little behind but beggers can't be choosers.... there's no way i could afford to buy a whole set of dvds.

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
oh, i rent them from blockbuster. we have dial-up so downloading any long video files just isn't an option.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
oooh. so blockbuster has tv shows? wow i didn't know that! man i gotta go down there sometime, seriously. i bought season 3 of xfiles, it cost me an arm and a leg, but i totally love that show.... man i miss xfiles ;_;, uh anyway. so yeah i never got to watch the other seasons (on tv i did but i like to watch in order so i remember better) and so now maybe i could rent them!

eep sorry i took a lot of words to say one thing. hhahah. ~_~

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 10:31 pm (UTC)(link)
i don't think they have the x-files. and they get the dvd sets somewhat late. but ours has sex in the city, the sopranos, six feet under, queer as folk, the osbournes, and maybe buffy.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
darn no x-files.... i think those are the only one's i'd want to watch. i'm not really a big tv fan... i only watch survivor now, and i used to watch xfiles and simpsons. oh now i watch family guy if i can, too.

i never got into the buffy thing... the acting was terrible at first and by the time it got better i didn't get what was going on, hehe.

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
i never did either. it's not exactly to my taste. but i admire the creator for it. it's one of those original things that's sort of radical while being made up of nothing but universally-known pieces of other things. it was really innovative and has many copycats, now, but no one who has quite the hip feel of it.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-06 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
yeah i'll give it that. plus anything that has such a good slash base is bound to be good. the ta for one of my classes was a big slash fan. i found this out when i handed in an outline for a paper on slash and she sent it back with smily faces, it was cool. she was a huge buffy fan, so we did papers on an episode.

hey i'm rambling. ^_^

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-07 08:58 am (UTC)(link)
rambling is the source of all good conversations.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-07 01:31 pm (UTC)(link)
very true! actually, now that i read this, i wasn't really rambling. but it took me a long time to type so it seemed like a lot, hehe. hooo. good morning!

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-07 06:16 pm (UTC)(link)
good evening!

i don't even remember what you said anymore, so that's all right.

i saw lost in translation and was disappointed, although it was... affecting. moving? but it wasn't as funny as i hoped.

but now i'm halfway through secretary (dad has to have a medical procedure done, and i'm waiting for him) and IT'S way cooler than i expected so far.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-07 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
good evening! :)

really? a lot of people have been saying it's really good.... i've been meaning to watch it. lost in translation, that is. i think the girl in it is really cute.... i liked her in ghost world.

what's secretary about?

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-08 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
secretary is like... a drama/romantic comedy about two compulsive people. it's the fluffiest romance about a dom and a submissive i've ever seen.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-08 02:30 pm (UTC)(link)
sounds cool! i'm going to watch movies today.... hopefully i can rent a few but if not, i have the faculty and sleepy hollow i could watch. i love those movies.

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-08 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
i've never seen sleepy hollow.

although in my johnneh! phase i was planning to.

[identity profile] wolfsage.livejournal.com 2004-02-08 02:45 pm (UTC)(link)
ooh. well i liked it! it wasn't brilliant but it was definetely worth watching. i liked the mythological aspects... his dreams, and the witch girls and stuff. pretty gothic.

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-02-08 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
ooh. maybe i will.