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Cimorene ([personal profile] cimorene) wrote2004-11-28 07:19 pm

helpful hints for writing romance and slash no. 1,600,042

if, while you're writing slashfic, some poignantly pertinent lyrics come to your mind as inspiration but they don't really fit the tone of canon--for example, cohen/wainwright/whassis' "halleljuh" during the fast and the furious--keep it to yourself.

don't quote them.*

*the same applies to poetry. ESPECIALLY t.s. eliot.

[identity profile] wax-jism.livejournal.com 2004-11-28 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
oh him. nah, babe, it wasn't TFTF. eliot is just EVERYWHERE. 'the hollow men' gets almost as much play in slash as sarah mclachlan's entire ouvre put together. i can't remember the last one i found it in, but it always annoys me. you'd think it would take so much balls to compare yourself to fucking TS Eliot, let ALONE that poem, that it only would've happened once or twice in the history of slash... but such is simply not the case.

-cim... the more options button's not working

[identity profile] thelionforreal.livejournal.com 2004-11-28 06:40 pm (UTC)(link)
'the hollow men' gets almost as much play in slash as sarah mclachlan's entire ouvre put together.

First, *snicker*.

Second, are you fucking kidding me? I would have to have balls of solid titanium to pull a 'hollow men' reference in slash. In fact, unless that (read: any) fic is a perfect piece of literature, it is automatically considered bad!fic just for TRYING. *spits*

(Also, 'hollow men' is in my next poetry rotation. *grin*)

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-11-28 06:53 pm (UTC)(link)
instead of reading a chapter that follows a quote from the hollow men with anything like suspension of disbelief i'm always torn between 'oh yeah bitch, what's so fucking brilliant then? come on, bring it' and mad literary analysis trying to figure out the supposed parallel. most of the time it's depressingly superficial which just makes me want to beat my head on a wall: like a few lines about hollow and straw, and a scene of angst or philosophizing, the emptiness of life. i mean, they have the concept of deep far enough to like eliot enough to quote it, but not enough to go deeper than 'oh, it's about sadness'?

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-11-28 06:56 pm (UTC)(link)
sadly, one of the best pieces pieces of slash in kirk/spock is saved from being really satisfying, the sort of thing you can't pick nits from, ONLY by the fact that EVERY section is headed with t.s. eliot. i mean, what a way to go! she loses like fifty points just from THAT, and meanwhile it's better written (aside from i mean) than the majority of its peers, besides being rather, well, fresh. a source of constant distress, mate.

see for yourself:
http://www.waxjism.org/cimorene/trek/anothercountrybeckons.txt

[identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com 2004-11-28 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
bah. nevermind. the file's corrupt. :grouch: by corrupt i mean GONE.