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delayed hostile reactions to my rotk reviews... from people i don't know?
is scrupulously fair-minded treatment of fictional characters reasonably to be expected in the personal journals of all lotr fans? can any comment about a fictional character be intrinsically classy or un-? neither of these questions is really interesting enough to address at length. but i'm absolutely positive that it's silly to look for classiness in people's personal journals.
also, what constitutes 'bashing' of a fictional character? can it be achieved by disagreement with other readers over whether a particular scene in a movie was appropriately placed?
so many little essays and, er, clever one-liners are trickling in on my first review of rotk that i suspect some rosie-partisan somewhere has posted a link which others are following. if this is the case i hope they stop. i really didn't intend by my review to solicit the opinions of strangers.
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monkeycrackmary.
all is explained.
also, what constitutes 'bashing' of a fictional character? can it be achieved by disagreement with other readers over whether a particular scene in a movie was appropriately placed?
so many little essays and, er, clever one-liners are trickling in on my first review of rotk that i suspect some rosie-partisan somewhere has posted a link which others are following. if this is the case i hope they stop. i really didn't intend by my review to solicit the opinions of strangers.
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monkeycrackmary. all is explained.
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You're entitled to your own opinions, and to express them how you see fit, hon. *hugs* Don't ever stop talking! :p
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yes, i had a sorta 'jesus' moment too. but it was all worth it to extort cuddles from you!
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i dont expect mary meant for people to go rushing to rosie's defense and all, but you'll have that.
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perhaps her teenie-spelled summary is where they got the idea that i was rosie-bashing!
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::cough::
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there are books to be written on the rosie-sam-frodo issue, book and movie, and that's clearly not what you were attempting. back off, people!
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Your icon terrifies me. Good job.
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it's weird to go looking for strangers' opinions of movies to comment on. imo.
This is the first time I’ve ever encountered someone’s taking offense at ‘a person they don’t know’ commenting on an LJ entry. Need one be a friend to so do? You posted interesting ideas, and then debated about them extensively with someone else whose work I greatly admire. I read all the comments to the entry, and I wanted to put in my two cents. I won’t do so in future (in your LJ, anyway) without your permission.
Or perhaps there was another genuinely hostile comment, and I’m just being paranoid. I hope so.
BTW, I didn’t interpret your comments as Rosie-bashing. (Oh, well. Perhaps someone else did.)
Now, to cut & paste (for one last [hopefully clarifying] response):
Re: Jumping in belatedly...
i don't debate her ability to create an original character from the hints of rosie in canon, but why should someone's tolkien-based original character change someone else's opinion of the character in canon? it's not the same character from story to story. there might by some question of a work of fanfiction elaborating or explicating what is implicit in a character, even perhaps with rosie, who is so sketchily drawn as to be almost wholly open to reader interpretation. but no one reading or interpretation can be definitive, even once you've made up your mind. in the end, canon is all the information there is and the rest is speculation.
It’s not really Rosie I’m talking about, but Sam - Elenya seems to be suggesting that Rosie had been on Sam’s mind, at least on occasion, all through the quest: not Rosie herself, per se, but Rosie as a representation of the Shire. And I reckon that makes sense. Of course it’s speculation – all fanfic is.
With sketchy characters, I think that one can’t help but flesh them out somewhat in one’s own mind whilst reading. And since those reader interpretations are infinitely variable, as you say, anyone else’s interpretation can give you a new perception of the character. Like, “Oh, yeah – maybe it could have been like that. I never thought of it that way.” And that can, indeed, change one’s opinion of the character in canon, when one re-reads with the new perception in mind.
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as for adding your two cents to the discussion, you know that since you replied to the whole entry, mirabella and adrienne could see what you said only when they followed my link? the practical result was a series of determined, debatey comments on a conversation so long over with that i had to re-read it to place the new remarks in context.
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Also, I didn't mean to imply you speak teenie. Just to make all things clear.
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no, and my conscience is clear of it. although possibly you expressed a bit extra-forcefully, with that, your scorn for the dissenting points of view.
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