HOLY COW

[cimorene]

i just got email from my dad:

"One of the teachers at mom's school was shot and killed in a barroom fight in Greensboro.  It was, according to the rumor I heard, over an insult given to his wife and he pulled a gun out of his car as did the other guy.  Both are dead.  Details have not been released but it's obviously a sad waste.  He was pretty young and I think the other guy was too."

and this is why guns are bad, people.

Comments

[revulo.livejournal.com]

Eeek...
Which Greensboro would this happen to be? :(

[cimness.livejournal.com]

there's only one in alabama that i know of. it's a poor county where gambling is legal; people go there for greyhound racing. and to have shoot-outs at bars apparently.

[frahulettaes.livejournal.com]

but according to the NRA, guns don't kill people, people kill people...I've always thought that reasoning was totally suspect. Because the gun makes intent lethal. Without the gun you just have fist fights. IMHO.
I'm sorry for his wife.

[meimi.livejournal.com]

Or a knife fight, which can basically be just as lethal. Sadly, us humans don't exactly need guns to kill each other.

[frahulettaes.livejournal.com]

no indeed, but why should be continue to make it any easier?

[meimi.livejournal.com]

I simply have no faith in humanity. Even if guns were taken away, I don't think there would be that much of a difference in the long run. We'd simply come up with more creative ways to kill each other. That's not to say that it isn't worth the effort to try, mind you, it's just that I wouldn't hold my breath on it actually solving anything in the long run.

[frahulettaes.livejournal.com]

Well, the statistics don't bear you out. Countries with low gun ownership also have very low murder rates. Any kind of murder.

[meimi.livejournal.com]

Statistics are interesting, but they're not absolute (because different countries are different countries). In the United States, at least, I think it's already beyond the point of making a difference whether people have guns or not. Asides from knife deaths, we'd probably see an escalation in people simply being run over by cars along with lots of people learning how to make homemade bombs. It would be nice to be proven wrong, but I simply cannot hold any hope in people actually changing.

[guinevere33.livejournal.com]

Oh, god, that's so horrible. Their poor families.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

yeah, despite alabama being alabama, i can't remember anything similar happening at all recently.

[happiestwhen.livejournal.com]

Good lord. What kind of teacher carries a gun. :( I feel awful for his wife, family, and students.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

heh, actually, your question reminds me of the Gun Control Doesn't Control Guns, Just Telling People Not To Shoot Them Controls Guns Student Teacher. this was a hick student teacher we had in history my junior year of high school, and besides being a bad teacher, he made a place for himself forever in my memory the day he explained to us how gun control is unnecessary and insulting to gun owners and also, totally ineffective, and the way you're supposed to control guns is to just tell tiny little children not to fire them except, of course, outside when you are shooting at animals. because tiny little children who grow up in hunting families know all about guns! for example, he said, in his family they leave loaded rifles lying around in the reach of his four-year-old niece all the time, because they know she understands gun safety. it is perfectly safe to leave that gun on the table and wander around preparing food and taking a shower, as long as you have explained to your four-year-old in advance that guns are not to be fired inside the house!