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I've thought about making a post like this a lot, because I read a lot of badfic, and I talk to a lot of people who don't, and it's something that most people don't understand. The question comes up directly, or by implication, a lot.

Reading badfic - even though I often choose good writing over it when I have the chance - is something that I enjoy for its own sake even when it does pain me, and not just in the "there was no good fic to read" way. It's a different experience, a difference in kind and a difference in degree at once. If reading good fiction is a dream about swimming deep underwater, then reading badfic is a thoughtful trance while you wade through a stream. Perhaps a more apt analogy is that reading badfic is like looking at child art, although strictly speaking the badfic of the unsophisticated adult and the child-like art of the unsophisticated adult differ in some significant ways from the art and writing of actual children (although certainly you find the writing of actual children in among badfic. Even in fandom, as their authors' notes so horrifyingly notify me).

In some recent meta posts like the one on access character and heroinisation I talked about how the body of fanon found in badfic lies closer to the fannish collective unconscious. In a recent meta post by somebody else associated, I think, with the "does fanfic make us poor" debate (unfortunately, I can't remember which), fanfiction was likened to primitive writing or storytelling. I would argue that this isn't true of all fanfiction, but it is true of badfic. Looking at a fandom's badfic shows you, eventually, a gradually emerging picture of the fannish collective unconscious as it applies to that fandom; it shows you the first storytelling impulses of many fans unfiltered by the additional processes which go into writing more sophisticated fiction.

At a certain early stage, a child's representations of other people are almost wholly symbolic. As they perceive more things about people they add more details: lips, ears, eyelashes, fingers and toes. You get these blob people, circles with eyes and lips and noses but usually no ears or eyebrows, with spindly sticks emerging from the sides (where the ears would be, often) and from the bottom for the arms and legs, with circles for feet and hands and stick fingers. There are almost never five sticks on hands or feet. The child considers it important to represent that the person has fingers, and a nose, and a head; the number of fingers is obviously less important. In other words, child art tells you about how the child looks at things, but it also tells you about how people look at things, because people used to be children. People learn to think symbolically first. People fasten onto the fact of fingers before they reach the more sophisticated stage of noticing their number.

In the same way, badfic shows you how the badfic writers look at things, which details they fasten onto, but it also shows you a glimpse of the fannish collective unconscious, patterns which emerge in good stories as well.

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Date: 8 May 2007 08:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] egelantier.livejournal.com
i guess if there's nobody to write enough clichefics or hurt/comfort fics or fluff fics 'good' authors start to write it just on a 'write what you want to read' principle, because it's such a highly satisfying kind of fics. so do we have good cliche-fic either growing out of ten bad ones or just appearing because there aren't ten of any quality? (kind of win-win situation, if you ask me).
i guess i keep thinking about this in some kind of forest biosenosis terms - from bottom of badfics through good written but nothing-but-cliche-fics (you know, the ones where there's honestly nothing more then this or that trope) to goodfics with new ideas, imagery etc on top. it's rather balanced, and when you take on part out, other start deforming.

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Date: 8 May 2007 01:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
I think originally ironic clichéfic grew out of the bad kind - self-consciously or sarcastically. But that was a long time ago and the clichés are perfectly well-established now, so it's not hard to write drawing on them in an ironic way even if there's no badfic in that specific fandom to reference, because there's all the other badfic out there with that cliché - and if your readers are slash readers, they will still be able to get it.

I call stories which are written passably (or well) on the surface with bad ideas underneath "mediocre fic" (to indicate the position between bad and good), but I acknowledge it doesn't exactly capture what's going on with them. But yeah, it's definitely a spectrum - and a balance. Your comment about an alteration at any level affecting the others made me think about fandoms with no good fic, and I'm sure I've read some that were at least 99% without good fic before. I think that messes up the balance too - maybe makes the fanon which develops "worse" (blander, more generalised, less related to canon) because it's made entirely of badfic, without the injections of innovation which good stories usually provide.

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Date: 8 May 2007 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] egelantier.livejournal.com
I guess in the fandom with no good fics from the start overall quality level is low because every new author orients on 'bad' as an example: i remember starting in fandom populated entirely by 13-year girls (not that i was much older) and writing very, very mediocre fic because there was nothing better to compare with. and then i discovered 'elite' part of fandom, and much better written fics, and my own improved accordingly since i had to comply with much higher criterion.
although you're raising a very valid point - usually there're some metafandom to individual ones, and if your current one doesn't have something, you can just pick it up in neighborhood.

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