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[H]e saw a slender glittering warrior come forth from the door [...], who stood for a moment looking round about, and then came lightly and swiftly toward him; and lo! it was the Sun-beam, with a long hauberk over her kirtle falling below her knees, a helm on her head and plated shoes on her feet.

—William Morris, The Roots of the Mountains


Mentions of this book before I read it indicated to me that it was the inspiration behind several chunks of The Lord of the Rings for Tolkien, one of these being the "warrior women". There is a woman who swears herself to the war-god as a result of being disappointed in love, and some other echoes of Eowyn's story discussed in my previous post on the subject, The romances of Morris's Roots of the Mountains as forerunners of those in LOTR. But saying that The Roots of the Mountains' fighting women inspired LOTR, though possibly true, is quite misleading, because there is so much more warrior woman in The Roots of the Mountains.

In The Roots of the Mountains, Victorian socialist and medieval fanboy William Morris created a fantasy version of pre-Christian central european Gothic tribes in an idyllic egalitarian agrarian society where women hold political influence and freely fight in war against barbaric colonizing enslavers.

This fantasy society isn't closely based on any sources - the nearest is the bits of the poem Hlöðskviða or "The Battle of the Goths and Huns" preserved in a 13th century Icelandic "legendary saga" (fornaldarsaga) (ie not a historical saga; though the poem doubtless has its origin in some real poems/songs) - and while the image of the Germanic warrior woman or Valkyrie certainly exists in Norse and germanic folklore, Morris's world in ROTM goes far beyond that. Read more... )

Of the three female main characters (out of five) in The Roots of the Mountains, one is The World's Greatest Archer, typically a woodswoman and huntress, and a fierce fighting maiden all the time; one is a young athlete who was always skilled at fighting and makes a vow to go to war as a result of her broken heart, but throws herself gloriously into the fighting as a leader of the people; and one is a wise political leader who refuses to take up arms herself, but goes into the battle in full armor with her people.

‘And when I go down to the battle,’ said he, ‘shalt thou be sorry for our sundering?’

She said: ‘There shall be no sundering; I shall wend with thee.’

Said he: ‘And if I were slain in the battle, would’st thou lament me?’

‘Thou shalt not be slain,’ she said.


There are still plenty of women who don't go to battle in The Roots of the Mountains, too, and their choice is valid! But the ability to fight and the will to fight are fully accepted and fairly widespread for women throughout the four societies he portrays, (1) the Burgdalers (town dwellers), (2) the shepherds, (3) the woodsfolk, and (4) the Children of the Wolf, who have been living hidden in Mirkwood, the forest which lies between the dalesmen and the eastern invaders, and protecting the border from their SECRET BASE in the hidden Shadowy Vale.

First we learn of the fighting women of the Children of the Wolf - a mysterious, rather fantastical people, throwbacks to the heroic age, and thus possibly more apt to exotic things like warrior maidens:

Then the Sun-beam spake to Gold-mane softly, and told him how this song was made by a minstrel concerning a foray in the early days of their first abode in Shadowy Vale, and how in good sooth a maiden led the fray and was the captain of the warriors:

‘Erst,’ she said, ‘this was counted as a wonder; but now we are so few that it is no wonder though the women will do whatsoever they may.’


(In The House of the Wolfings - that is, before the Wolfings came to the Shadowy Vale, and at least a couple of hundred years before ROTM - the army is made up mostly of men, but Read more... )) The Sun-beam's foster sister Bow-may intended from the first to fight, and takes the first opportunity to ask Face-of-god where he got his extremely good armor, and if she can have some:Read more... )

But next we learn that the settled town-dwelling society of Burgdale, which at first seemed like a traditional early medieval setting, enthusiastically accepts the vow of the Bride to dedicate herself to the war god and fight in the battle for her people, and that many other young maidens are inspired to follow her example:Read more... )

And finally when the fighters muster we see how many fighting women there are in the whole host: apparently eight, counting the Bride, out of 1 581 fighters from the Dale (Woodlanders and Folk of the Vine ie grape-growers); 50 women out of 235 Children of the Wolf. A sample of the muster scenes: Read more... )

Of the female fighters, we later learn that another besides the Bride was injured, and Bow-May's hand gets hurt and her bow broken, but she keeps fighting. Morris also portrays them fighting heroically alongside the male warriors in his battle scenes: Read more... )
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  • “[Y]ou twa will be as thick as three in a bed an ance ye forgather.” [You two will be as thick as three in a bed once you get together.]


  • “Then the gentleman is a scholar, David?”

    “I'se uphaud him a scholar,” answered David: “he has a black coat on, or a brown ane, at ony-rate.” [I'd bet he's a scholar; he has a black coat on, or a brown one, at any rate.]

    “Is he a clergyman?”

    “I am thinking no, for he looked after his horse's supper before he spoke o' his ain,” replied mine host.


  • “I wish him no worse lesson,” said the Sacristan, “than to go swimming merrily down the river with a ghost behind, and Kelpies, night-crows, and mud-eels, all waiting to have a snatch at him."


  • The Scottish laws, which were as wisely and judiciously made as they were carelessly and ineffectually executed,


  • “Alas! sir,” answered Dame Elspeth, “he is but too prompt, an you talk of promptitude, at any thing that has steel at one end of it, and mischief at the other.”


  • "He is a considerate lord the Lord Abbot.”

    “And weel he likes a saft seat to his hinder end,” said Tibb; “I have seen a belted baron sit on a bare bench, and find nae fault." [And well he likes a soft seat for his hind end.]


  • “And would he fight with Foster in the Church's quarrel?”

    “On any quarrel, or upon no quarrel whatever."

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This duology by the author of Waverley and Ivanhoe was published in 1820 and concerns the progress of the Protestant reformation in Scotland:

  • The Monastery is set in the 1550s and centers on the takeover by Protestants of the lands of Melrose Abbey (a 12th c. monastery) and the conversion to Protestantism of a fictional noble family. The family's guardian spirit, a sprite called the White Lady who speaks entirely in rhyme, interferes chaotically and helps bring about the happy ending of a romance, the conversion of the young couple and their vindication and installation in a Castle, and the downfall of the abbey. There is a lot of comedy of manners and minor adventures in this novel which I greatly enjoyed and will likely reread sometime; but the surrounding political violence is too real and chilling to go over lightly, so the mood felt uneven.


  • The Abbey is a sequel about a young man adopted (sort of) and raised (for about ten years) by the couple who were united in The Monastery: a Protestant knight close in the service of the bastard half-brother of Mary Queen of Scots who was instrumental in deposing her in favor of her infant son, and his wife, the scion of the ancient and noble house of Avenel whose castle they inhabit. The book is about this youth recovering from two sets of very bad parenting and outgrowing the violence, impulsivity, pride, and petulance which resulted from them... by being sent as a representative of BOTH the Protestant government AND the Catholic conspiracy in support of Mary, Queen of Scots to Castle Lochleven where she is being imprisoned. Read more... ) Roland is a purely fictional character, but the surrounding history is real, and it's pretty good; but the fact that so much of the interest is the real people makes the protagonist feel pastede on. In short, I think there was a better book hiding in there that was simply a novelization about Mary Queen of Scots at Lochleven without an invented protagonist and definitely without the ties to the other book. Also the child abuse plot is not saved by the fact that Scott knew it was what he was portraying. )


The Protestant Reformation famously, along with the destruction of the political power and wealth of the Catholic church as an institution, produced the physical destruction of numerous beautiful buildings and works of art: in many churches this took the form of removing statues, destroying carvings and stained glass windows, and painting over the wall paintings. But there were also many buildings that were torn down, burned, etc. This mob-violence aspect of the Reformation is presented in both novels in a way that is quite interesting, and succeeds in showing the issue's complexity, I think.

The introduction to The Monastery already warns the reader that Scott approaches the whole project from a perspective of hating Catholicism. Reading this, though, did not exactly prepare me for the prejudices of these novels. Hating the medeival Catholic church, the corrupt institution whose power had a stranglehold on Europe (and indeed much of the world) at the time of the Protestant reformation seemed like a reasonable middle-of-the-road position to me. I wasn't prepared for Scott apparently hating Catholicism:

the Catholic, defending a religion which afforded little interest to the feelings, had, in his devotion to the cause he espoused, more of the head than of the heart,

—The Monastery


Don't mistake me: he doesn't hate Catholic people or make them villains. But he views the entire project of struggling for Catholic control of a country to be inherently corrupt and evil, and all the people sincerely engaged in these projects are sadly deluded, or laughably illogical, if sincere. The monks in The Monastery couldn't present a more stark contrast to the monks in the Brother Cadfael novels: he has set two sincerely religious and moral, intelligent, admirable men among them, and the others, however sympathetic, are lazy, cowardly, intellectually negligble social parasites (the monastery is a feudal landowner and its monks are supported by the labor of indentured peasants, until the Protestant troops reposess its lands at the end of the first book).
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People have noted the similarities in the romance plots (among other elements) found in LOTR with those from William Morris's 1889 novels The House of the Wolfings and especially The Roots of the Mountains, which helped spark my curiosity to read them. The mentions in the Wikipedia article about Morris's influence on Tolkien and in Seaman's intro to ROTM are of the Aragorn-Arwen-Eowyn love triangle and the character trajectory of Eowyn, but there wasn't much detail. But I found more than just that!

Mortal-Immortal romance in The House of the Wolfings

I didn't see any mention of HOTW (the first book in the series) in association with Tolkien, only ROTM. However, while there is a love triangle - or actually a love pentacle - of cross-cultural romances in ROTM, there are not any gods or immortals on the page. There is a callback to the idea: when the protagonist meets the mysterious and nomadic People of the Wolf (forest-dwelling throwbacks to the age of heroes who dedicate themselves to protecting the borders of the sheltered little agrarian civilization), he is so awed at first that he imagines they (particularly his future wife and her brother) may be gods or spirits. But in The House of the Wolfings, the love story is between the brave war leader of the Wolfings and an immortal nature spirit - a dís - who wants to preserve his life and asks him to wear an enchanted hauberk or coat of mail. Read more... )

Love Pentacle in The Roots of the Mountains

As far as parallels to the romances in LOTR, ROTM offers: a woman disappointed in love who goes to war (two of them); a noble hero who reflects the past glory of his clan in a cross-cultural romance with a wise and beautiful woman of an even more noble background than his; and one of the disappointed-in-love warrior women being wounded in battle and having a dramatic cross-cultural romance with another brave warrior/political ruler character. (Also - and this isn't part of the romances - a character who like is just kind of. Hawkeye. Her entire thing is just being an amazing, unironically unbelievably the best, acknowledged master archer who is almost supernatural. She is one of the pentacle though.) Before I explain these claims, I must briefly introduce the five main characters.

  1. Protagonist and hero Face-of-god, alderman's son of the House of the Face in the small walled city of Burgdale. Read more... )

  2. His childhood sweetheart and (at the beginning of the novel) promised bride, the Bride, eldest daughter of the House of the Steer. She is athletic and beautiful (like at least one heroine in every Morris novel, her description is recognizably that of Morris's wife, Jane, whose likeness is preserved in many of the paintings of Dante Gabriel Rosetti). Read more... )

  3. The war-leader of the House of the Wolf, Folk-might, who has loved the Bride ever since he glimpsed her and wants to fight Face-of-God for falling in love with Folk-might's sister instead. Read more... )

  4. Folk-might's sister and Face-of-god's new love, the Sun-beam, the young political strategist of the House of the Wolf.Read more... )

  5. The Sun-beam and Folk-might's foster-sister Bow-may of the House of the Wolf, unironically the best archer imaginable, possibly a bit supernatural about it, and a blithe, jolly shieldmaiden who knows no fear. She is a little bit hopelessly in love with Face-of-god, but she's resigned to it. Read more... )



A woman goes to war after being disappointed in love.

For Eowyn going to war is an act of rebellion which she has to accomplish by dressing as a man and running away. That makes her gesture far more momentous than that of the Bride, who literally does decide to go to war because she is heartbroken, Read more... ) and shocks her people by doing it, but doesn't break any norms; in fact there are quite a few other women from Burgdale and the shepherds and woodsfolk who go to battle, and an even larger share of the women of the House of the Wolf. Far from running away, the Bride actually stands up at the folkmote and announces her intentions to the people, and thereafter becomes a sort of figurehead and morale-booster, inspiring other young women to fight: Read more... )

(Two of them)

Bow-may also goes to war and is disappointed in love, but it doesn't really count because she was going to go to war either way. You can't keep her away from the war. However, she is still lowkey tragic about it: Read more... )

A noble hero who reflects the past glory of his people finds himself in a cross-cultural romance with a wise, beautiful woman of an even more noble background than his.

Face-of-god grows from a youth to a man during this novel and is well-liked by the people before he is chosen to be their war-leader at the folkmote, but over the course of the novel others remark on his growth and likeness to a hero of bygone days. The Sun-beam, meanwhile, comes from the House of the Wolf, the clan who led the entire Gothic peoples a few hundred years ago in HOTW, defeating an attempted Roman invasion. Read more... )

A warrior woman disappointed in love is wounded in battle and has a dramatic cross-cultural romance with another brave warrior/political ruler character.

As mentioned, Folk-might actually falls in love at first sight after glimpsing the Bride from afar while on a covert fact-finding mission to Burgdale, but they become engaged after she is wounded in battle. Read more... )



Footnotes:
1. Týr (but would be spelled slightly different in Gothic - I found a source of comparative names in various germanic languages including Gothic on one of my 4 am googling-names-from-this-book binges, but now I can't find it again)
2. Likely Dagr, or possibly his father Dellingr (but would be spelled slightly different in Gothic)
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In my early posts about William Morris's The Roots of the Mountains I raised issues of anachronisms (here and here) and this led to a conversation with [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard that was really fun about brasilwood and medieval trade! Also, ultimately she made a very good point about my statements relating to dating these novels, namely: they are not exactly meant to be datable, because they aren't really historical fiction in the traditional sense. Read more... )

So yes, it's completely legit to observe that dating their events, or identifying contradictions in the dating thereof, is beside the point to the same extent that this is true of medieval romances or epic poetry. However, even though that's true, it doesn't mean that there's no value in investigating the real history behind the folklore. Even if the main value is fun. And in my case, picturing the clothing, because I'm into medieval clothing. ) So anyway, what CAN be pinned down about the time/setting of HOTW and ROTM?

  • HOTW deals with a massive alliance of germanic tribes successfully repelling a Roman invasion from their forest home of Mirkwood, which is definitely somewhere on the continent, but that's all we got. Goths have already joined the Roman army, but this is evidently only a recent development, and these traitor-Goths are responsible for leading the Romans to their homeland. At the beginning of HOTW the Romans are still a distant rumor, basically new to most of the members of these tribes. So it likely takes place quite early in the history of Roman-germanic conflicts, perhaps somewhere between the 2nd century BCE and the 1st century CE.


  • All the peoples in HOTW dwell in wooden longhouses, which, accurate. You can read on Wikipedia about how Tolkien just copied Meduseld from HOTW and therefore introduced the word "louvres", which historians later accused Tolkien of being anachronistic for because the word 'louvres' wasn't present in Anglo-Saxon England, lol. Yes okay Wikipedia, point taken. I'm trying not to be quite that silly.


  • ROTM takes place many generations, perhaps a few hundred years, after The House of the Wolfings. The tribe of the Wolfings live in the forest, protecting the boundaries of a small settlement of farmers and shepherds in a peaceful valley at the foot of the mountains. The shepherds and farmers are allied germanic tribes and all are still pagan. If Wikipedia is to be believed, the Goths converted to Christianity in the late 4th century AD and were one of the first germanic peoples to do so. This is covered extensively in Jordanes (Morris was certainly familiar with it, and drew on it for these books otherwise, although that's no guarantee he intended to treat it as canon).


  • The settled germanic tribes in ROTM still preserve a basically egalitarian society based on seasonal Thing assemblies in a stone circle ("[In] Finland [so-called "court stones"] are found in Eura, Ulvila and Kokemäki. They date typically [to] during the Pre-Roman Iron Age and the Roman Iron Age. In Sweden, they are called Domarringar (judge circles), Domkretsar (judge circles) or Domarsäten (judge seats). In Finland they are called Käräjäkivet (court stones). In some places in [the] Nordic countries they were used [for Thing assemblies] until [the] 17th century"), but they have hereditary chieftains now instead of their former method of elected war leaders from HOTW.


  • The society of ROTM have a fortified city with stone houses. I don't think this can be used to date anything though, because as far as I know, there is no stone architecture from pagan germanic tribes currently available to architectural historians. I think this was just Morris letting his fancy run away with him, to be frank.


(Regarding my two posts about anachronisms: if ROTM is intended to be set in Crimea, which is possible, the brasilwood dye is probably fine even as far back as the 200s or 300s CE; but if you want to use the existence of the bowed string instruments to date it the whole thing would have to be pushed forward to around the 10th century CE, when like, almost everyone was converted to Christianity: they established the Archbishopric of Uppsala in Sweden in 1164 and that's the furthest Northwest they had to go. Yeah, I'm not serious about dating it then. Possibly he just didn't care but probably he was just plain wrong about the bowed string instrument.)

I was originally (before looking up a ton of stuff) thinking 5th or 6th century AD might be the intended ballpark target time period, because there were many more Asian incursions into germanic tribal territory in those centuries; but that is actually way too late for them to all be pagans. Of course, Morris might have just kept them pagan because he loved germanic paganism and was a Norse saga fanboy, while still imagining his setting in the 5th or 6th centuries. But on the whole - and this conclusion is definitely pretty much vibes-based -, I am thinking 3rd-4th century CE for ROTM and 1st century BCE or CE for HOTW. To the extent that that is valid. Which is like... maybe roughly 20%.
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When it comes to the five things I identified yesterday that I need to deal with, I have done nothing in the last two days! Yesterday after I dusted, swept, and vacuumed, the benzo suddenly took effect, and I felt like all my limbs turned to cooked spaghetti. So I napped the rest of the day/evening and snuggled with Sipuli. Today I thought about taking my ADHD meds and... decided not to and snuggled with Sipuli again. And read.

I finished rereading the translated original The Story of the Beauty and the Beast by Gabrielle-Suzanne Barbot de Villeneuve, a novel which is the oldest known variant of the fairy tale Beauty and the Beast. (Obviously it is derived from the Animal as Bridegroom folk tale type, though, to say nothing of the myth of Cupid and Psyche.) Yeah, another French lady - Beaumont - rewrote the novel in 1756 and removed the last two thirds (which are all concerned with absolutely bonkers fairy lore), making it much more boring, and the popular versions all derived from there.

I have reread it now for the sake of the bonkers fairy lore.

My favorite part of the bonkers lore that I had forgotten is that Villeneuve's fairy kingdom (which actually is in the air, not like, under mounds like Celtic folklore, or in an alternate dimension; her fairies seem to all be spirits of the air) are antis.

Junior fairies - either fairies under 1000 years old, or who have not Become a Serpent, a dangerous trial which unlocks their powers early but risks death - are only permitted to romantically or sexually ally themselves with beings of exactly equal powers to themselves. Absolutely no power imbalances allowed!!!

After the age of 1000 (or upon successful completion of The Ordeal of becoming a serpent) they can do more things, and are allowed to marry whomever, including puny mortals. (It's a plot point because Beauty is the child of an illegal junior-fairy/human marriage who had to be secretly exchanged for a merchant's child for her safety.)
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I did finish The Roots of the Mountains and The House of the Wolfings, and I did get quite interested in the romantic plots and depictions of women fighting in war therein, which certainly do seem to have inspired LOTR. But another issue fascinated me alongside it, namely the orcs.

For context, my opinion, prior to my recent reading of and about these two Morris books, of the whole issue of orcs and goblins in LOTR was that they are essentially racist. I think any attempt to portray a humanoid fantasy species that are inherently evil would be inevitably (with the possible exception of a hypothetical situation where exploring and deconstructing that exact issue was the whole point). I had garnered the impression that the dehumanification of orcs was done with the intention of making it less agonizing/harrowing/tragic, to allow the Good characters to be fighting and killing a depersonalized Evil, but that Tolkien himself (eventually?) even was aware of (? or uncomfortable with?) the implications. (I set aside the film portrayal, which made it worse, but I'm just discussing the books here.) But I haven't investigated that issue or the scholarship about it that I recall, just read posts and essays in fandom and online about it. (I know there is scholarship about it, but I haven't looked.)

Recently I did a websearch about William Morris's HOTW/ROTM and discovered (as mentioned in a couple of previous posts) some indications that these books, specifically, had inspired bits of LOTR, and my curiosity determined me to finish wading through the boringness/rhyming poetry of HOTW in order to finally read ROTM. And I read it! Part of what I found in that websearch was the Wikipedia article called William Morris's influence on Tolkien, which is a bit of a grab bag but included this:

Morris describes the Dusky Men as "long-armed like apes", "as foul as swine", fighting with crooked swords, and forming "a stumbling jostling throng".[24] Massey comments that their nature is dehumanised, so they can be slaughtered "with impunity", and that Tolkien modelled the Orcs on them.[24]

[24] Massey 2007, pp. 130–132.

Massey, Kelvin Lee (2007). The Roots of Middle-Earth: William Morris's Influence upon J. R. R. Tolkien. University of Tennessee (PhD thesis).


And then also, in Graham Seaman's 2003 Introduction to The Roots of the Mountains (also mentioned in a previous post), this: Read more... ) Therefore, I started reading the book after these two passages with the impression that the "Huns" or Dusky Men of Morris's ROTM were going to be a fantasy race: definitely not human - acting like zombies, incapable of breeding with people (and also inherently evil). Please note: I do not unquestioningly accept that quote from Jordanes and what it is apparently arguing, but I wanted to investigate the matter further myself. But even if I didn't swallow the argument whole, I did still expect this passage to be factual - that is, for the Dusky Men to actually be unambiguously, in the text, a fantasy race, not just human beings, who are inherently evil and all that jazz.

But they aren't.

Surprise!

So now I have to deal with what they actually ARE in the text before I come back to whether Jordanes, et. al. absolves Morris and Tolkien, or to what it could mean.

Are the Huns unambiguously inhuman fantasy monsters? No. Are they like orcs, goblins, or zombies? No. They are described as ugly, short-necked, small-eyed, etc., but none of the physical descriptions go beyond the standard anti-Asian racism discussed so extensively in Said's Orientalism. They are guys who are not as smart or good at fighting as the heroic germanic tribesmen - that's why they formed a stumbling, jostling throng in that quote: because they weren't all drilled and prepared to take up orderly formations and obey the orders of their commanders. They were just panicking. Can they interbreed with humans? Yes. And they do. Are there half-breeds to deal with? Yes. They are either raised as Dusky Men or murdered as infants by them. So, then, is it possible that they are actually human? Again, not really, if you take the testimony of the various characters who relate exposition about them as true (and it is true within the story, I would say), but I don't think that's intentional. Here is a small selection of the most relevant quotations about them:Read more... )

So to sum up: ROTM's Dusky Men are an all-male, all-warrior parasitical society. All its citizens are warriors who do no other labor, and they keep a proportionally massive enslaved population, whom they abuse egregiously. Their natural children by their captives usually resemble their fathers but not always, and are not infrequently born with severe cognitive disabilities; of the apparently healthy offspring, the male ones are raised as Dusky Men and the female ones murdered. They travel in groups, but they are not nomadic: they look for a comfortable place they can exploit and move in there to stay. Further groups of Dusky Men arrive over time, but this seems to be the result of having exhausted natural resources or grown too numerous for their previous residences, or from being driven out in war.

They very definitely aren't the historical Huns, because they don't fight on horseback, and don't even seem to move their people on horseback, and they don't arrive with herds of livestock. (Also we know the Huns didn't practice universal female infanticide.) (If Wikipedia is to be believed, Jordanes wrote about the Hunnic Altziagiri tribe's summer and winter pasturage in Crimea, so this lack of herding is a deliberate departure on Morris's part: he puts quite a lot into emphasizing the Dusky Men's refusal to do any labor at all, which is certainly his socialism showing. More on this later.) They also very definitely aren't a possible depiction of any other real civilization in history, because of Read more... ) But given that the Victorian English reader would not find these circumstances implausible, I think they are still compatible with intent to portray a race of people, not a race of orcs or monsters. Read more... )

When you consider that ROTM is a novel from the point of view of the Goths, it is easier to accept that some parts - like the accusations of ugliness - might represent racism on the part of the characters, and not necessarily the author. In other words, the Dusky Men might be intended as a portrayal of a plausible human society of total assholes, whose assholery is in their behavior - enslaving and oppressing other people so that they can be the idle rich, and also sadism and cruelty - and whose appearances are described in all the classic racist cliches from Said's Orientalism because that is, realistically, how medieval central European societies repeatedly described people from Asia. The descriptions are xenophobic and reflective of the worst traditions of Orientalist racism, but they are completely in character for his text, which is essentially a fictional medieval history - it poses as the kind of history composed on the basis of oral folklore, with many appeals to what the fictional oral tradition says, with levels of detail comparable to epic poetry. (Morris was a huge fan of epic poetry and translated a lot of the prose Edda, some of the poetic Edda, Beowulf, and various medieval French romances into English.) Roughly, this book seems to be answering the question, "What if there existed a bundle of orally-transmitted song and poetry about the length of the Iliad about this bit of the history of the Goths (that particular racist one from Jordanes up above, I mean) and the bits around it, and somebody had translated it into graceful and beautiful prose, what might that look like?"

This has accounted for sources and motivations behind a lot of choices here, but it hasn't really settled why his Dusky Men differ in the ways they do from what you might expect of the, you know, horrible enslaving Asian conquering horde in the middle ages. And the answer to all of those whys is probably ultimately "Morris's passionate socialist beliefs", although the connection between those beliefs and the outcome on the page is open to multiple interpretations.

The enslaving Dusky Men's monstrous refusal of labour - which isn't just about becoming social parasites, but is a choice which was inherently destructive of one's moral character and happiness, according to Morris's worldview - is clearly related to socialism. We can detect reflections of growing capitalism, the transatlantic slave trade, the oppression of the English working classes, etc. But it's harder to diagnose the universal female infanticide. Is this a choice driven by titillation, essentially - an attempt merely to make them more alien, more horrible? ...No. Spoiler: it's probably because for Morris, socialism includes and implies female equality.

Morris is not a perfect feminist, but his novels, his nonfiction, and his actions as a business owner and political activist were all strongly in support of what we would today call feminism. He believed that women were men's moral and intellectual equals, and his vision of a future socialist utopia is one of full gender equality. In his socialist fantasies women and men share equally in the joyful, physically and morally edifying physical labor of agriculture and figure equally as masters of all the arts and crafts; in his medieval pastiche novels women figure as heroes, warriors and decision-makers, though not always to the same degree. So. That's probably why. Maybe I'll have figured out a theory to explain the connection better by the time I've written the other essay I need to write about the women warriors and politicians in this book.

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21 Apr 2025 12:49 am
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I finished reading The Abbot (Scott) and The Roots of the Mountains (Morris), but I haven't been able to take time to compose posts about them because I saved a ton of quotations and I really wanted to finish the sweater I've been knitting. I finished weaving in the ends today, so tomorrow I can block it.

Also the remaining Emily Wilson translations I've got are Roman plays by Seneca, not Greek tragedies, and I'm not liking them as much. Also the book is a pdf which is always a pain. I've got another William Morris reread and another Walter Scott novel set in the middle ages to read queued up, but I'm taking a break to reread the original Villeneuve Beauty and the Beast, which I've been meaning to get around to for a while, because it has hilariously elaborate fairy lore backstory but I couldn't remember the specifics.
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Oh no, not my guy William Morris putting a New World ingredient in Europe 700 years too early!

...came out of the house clad in a green kirtle and a gown of brazil, with a golden-hilted sword girt to her side.

—The Roots of the Mountains (1889), William Morris


brazil (plural brazils)

Noun. (obsolete) A red-orange dye obtained from brazil wood. [14th–17th c.]

ETA: this might be wrong! Thanks to [personal profile] mildred_of_midgard, I now know the Wiktionary entry quoted above was incomplete 😠 and didn't inform me that brasilwood was a commonly used source of pigment/dye throughout Europe in the high middle ages and came from East Asia, frequently Ceylon (present-day Sri Lanka). (Brazil, the country, was named for the wood, because a close relative — the plant now known as Brazil wood — was plentiful there before being exploited almost entirely away.) The question remains whether this trade really did go so far back, but it's not so implausible after all. Morris was likely familiar with the dye's usage after 1000 CE and extrapolating backwards, as with the fiddle which was definitely incorrect, but it is possible that the wood was present in the book's setting (probably the 4th - 5th c. CE, somewhere in the a Carpathian region - see Wikipedia Hlöðskviða (also Hlǫðskviða and Hlǫðsqviða), known in English as The Battle of the Goths and Huns and occasionally known by its German name Hunnenschlachtlied for discussion of the possible historical context of the Old Norse heroic poem on the subject).
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I know teenagers in reality are often foolish and prone to risky behavior and refusing to pay attention to guidance or instructions, but having always been extraordinarily cautious and timid, it's a quality I can't relate to and have difficulty even empathizing with.

Even a character who, like The Abbot's Roland Graeme, is 100% plausibly foolish, impulsive, violent, arrogant and daredevil — being 17 and spoiled by a horribly abusive combination of parental indulgence and neglect — is very difficult for me to read.

My patience with foolhardy risk-taking in narrative is very short before I start saying constantly, "This guy should have Darwin Awarded himself to death by now. Please let this one kill him. And on the plus side, if he died this time, I wouldn't have to read about any more of his infuriating decisions."

So the bad parenting retiring from the foreground has not made the book much more palatable so far.
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Even though I was already super into the medieval pastiche novels of my pal William Morris, a big part of my motivation for finishing The House of the Wolfings and reading The Roots of the Mountains was learning that these books were a major, perhaps the primary traceable literary influence on LOTR. I was suddenly curious! My reading in a brief web search promised that The Roots of the Mountains influenced:

✒️ The Dunedain as a proud wandering people descended from a great and noble culture in a more heroic past, dedicated to protecting the less warlike civilizations around them (inspired by the Sons of the Wolf in ROTM)

✒️ A culture with warrior women (the article that said he probably borrowed this is hilarious, given that the only culture with warrior women in Tolkien is actually a culture where the woman has to crossdress and sneak away to war; The Sons of the Wolf actually have warrior women)

✒️ The armies of orcs are said to be inspired by the "Huns" in ROTM, which, as I've mentioned in the past, are actually an army of demonic? monsters? apparently in spite of the name. (I still haven't reached their part in ROTM yet, but if it turns out that JRRT borrowed the idea and all his changes made it LESS racist that will be funny.)

✒️ Apparently the cross-cultural romances in general and the Aragorn-Arwen-Eowyn triangle in particular have clear antecedents in ROTM. I've seen the beginning of this already, but I'm assured that the novel contains five couples and am intrigued to find out where the others are going.

So far I've only read about 10% of The Roots of the Mountains, but I've already noticed that its gender politics (and its other politics) are more progressive than LOTR's (ROTM was published in 1889, LOTR 1954-55; Morris was born in 1834, Tolkien in 1892). Truly, as one of the websites I read said (paraphrasing), a chunk of LOTR is a reactionary Catholic reimagining of Morris's radically socialist fantasy.

This reminds me of how Morris & Co was also notably less sexist in the Victorian era than the supposedly progressive idealists at the Bauhaus in the 1920s-30s.
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At about age 10 I learned the outline of the story of the series of revenge murders in the family of Agamemnon - a sort of footnote to the story of the Trojan war - from Edith Hamilton's Mythology, which I was a fangirl of for some years. The story, in case you need a refresher. ) It wasn't my favorite; my takeway as a child was just "I hate Agamemnon." But I only started reading some Greek tragedies in the last few months (after Emily Wilson's Iliad and Odyssey). And just like in reading the Iliad and Odyssey, I became fascinated by the cultural perspectives revealed by the characters and about the writers.

In Iphigenia among the Taurians by Euripides (trans. Anne Carson), Iphigenia has been whisked away by Artemis at the moment of death to become her priestess in a remote land. In this rather silly fixit, everybody in Greece thinks she has been sacrificed according to the myth. During the play her brother Orestes is shipwrecked on her island, where the Taurian tribe sacrifice any Greek men who arrive to Artemis (forcing Iphigenia and any Greek women they catch to act as priestesses). She and Orestes escape together, but before that they discuss Agamemnon's murder of Iphigenia and Clytemnestra's murder of Agamemnon and Orestes' murder of Clytemnestra. And even here in this play about Iphigenia - even Iphigenia herself barely mentions the murder of Iphigenia! Here's all she says:

IPHIGENIA: Is there not some tale of another daughter, sacrificed?

ORESTES: None except she’s dead and looks no more upon the daylight.

IPHIGENIA: Pity that girl, pity the father who slew her.


Now, this absence isn't just remarkable because it's the original cause of these cascading dominoes.

From my cultural perspective, Iphigenia's murder by her father is by far the most heinous crime in this cycle: child murder! Yet this inciting event, part of the canon (Homer) of which the tragedies are derivative works, is nearly invisible in all of the tragedies. Through all three of the tragedians' works, through all seven2 of the plays I read and all the long conversations and debates about justice and revenge, Iphigenia and her murder are glaringly absent, even though it's the cause of the whole domino chain!

It's so glaringly absent that it started to remind me of asomatognosia, the neurological condition in which patients are unable to perceive a part of their own body: they may chronically forget it exists, or even obstinately deny that it's theirs in the face of visual proof. The more I read, the more I noticed this glaring absence, and the more I kept reading - I was gripped as if by a thriller, trying to figure out if this was an intentional absence meant to say something, or if it was truly a blind spot so large it encompassed the entire culture, writers and all.

  • The next plays I read were Aeschylus's famous Oresteia (trans. Sarah Ruden), a trilogy comprising Agamemnon (Clytemnestra's killing of him) (also trans. Anne Carson3), The Libation Bearers (Orestes' killing of Clytemnestra), and Eumenides (Athena's appeals court considers if Orestes, represented by Apollo, will be tormented by the Furies for all time). I found a few glimmers of acknowledgement in Agamemnon. The Chorus of old men of Argos do view the murder of Iphigenia as shocking and worthy of condemnation ), but I looked in vain for more in the remainder of the trilogy. From most of the dialogue, the next two plays seem to be set in an AU where Clytemnestra killed Agamemnon out of nowhere, or from sexual jealousy. Clytemnestra doesn't bring it up when begging for her life; it doesn't come up at Orestes' trial4. Overall Aeschylus seems to give exponentially more weight to the murder of Agamemnon than that of Iphigenia - like his Chorus, who felt the latter was appropriately punished by judgy faces behind his back, not lessening their reverence and respect, but that for the former Clytemnestra is an abomination whom they want to exile.


  • Sophokles' Elektra (trans. Anne Carson) is basically a remix of The Libation Bearers, in which Orestes is sent to Argos to kill his mother and meets his sister Elektra, who eggs him on, but with Elektra foregrounded and her rage and resentment (and her suffering, and her enemies' loathesomeness) dialed up to hysterical levels. It does give Klytaimestra a speech ), but Elektra maintains her father's innocence and the monstrosity of Klytaimestra's actions, a view endorsed by the Chorus. The best reading is that Klytaimestra misguidedly sought revenge for the murder of her daughter in defiance of gods and society, sacrificing all other morality, and over time became twisted by her evil actions into a monstrously unmotherly tormentor to the daughter whose life she has unjustly ruined. ) Neither Elektra nor the Chorus concede even the possiblity of Klytaimestra's right to vengeance for her daughter, though most of the play is dedicated to endorsing the glorious holiness of vengeance for Agamemnon; but at least the question is discussed. And in spite of Elektra's defense of her child-murdering father and misogynist villification of her mother, her defiance and refusal to submit to power are themselves transgressive.


  • Euripides' Electra (trans. Emily Wilson) is a dark, erratic, gruesome play, that seems like nothing so much as a biting parody of Sophocles' Electra (although they might just both be riffing on Aeschylus; dating is uncertain): here Orestes and Electra are more concerned about their loss of wealth and status than about piety and honor. Clytemnestra gives what amounts to a villian monologue, recounting the murder of Iphigenia and saying she could have tolerated it but decided to kill Agamemnon in jealousy because he brought home a sex slave. Implications in Aeschylus and Sophocles are magnified: Orestes and Electra's bloodthirstiness, the nonsensical interventions of the gods. )


  • Euripides' Orestes (trans. Anne Carson) is even darker - it seems absurdist, a play about the meaninglessness of everything. Orestes and Elektra are pawns of the gods, but they're not noble, pure, or heroic; this is a play about foolish, bloodthirsty, irrational people in a violent, inconsistent, unjust society ruled by chance and fate and unsympathetic, petty, sadistic gods. ) Iphigenia is never mentioned or implied in the whole play, but their grandfather, Tyndareus, invokes the argument that revenge-killing can't go on forever or else where will it end - the very argument for Olympian justice and trial in Eumenides - as a justification for executing Orestes. He answers Orestes' defense that "the orders [he] followed were Apollo's", in his very next speech, with "[Orestes] is an enemy of the gods, let him be stoned." Trial by jury is no shield in this play. The gods are no shield. Olympian justice is a joke.


And given that Euripides saw all of that, it seems that he must have seen Iphigenia. Isn't it significant that in Iphigenia among the Taurians she, the missing human sacrifice at the bottom of the entire cycle, is extracted by the hand of god[dess], transposed to an isolated location away from Greek society and morality and families, into an isolation almost like a laboratory experiment, where every other factor is controlled for and her entire purgatorial existence has become a philosophical exercise about human sacrifice? ) This is perhaps as close as Euripides could get to saying "Artemis did not stop the ships and did not want Iphigenia sacrificed. If men sacrificed a young girl, it was an expression of their own evil, and sacrificing her to a god was an insult to that god."

I still don't know for sure if Aeschylus and Sophocles were aware that Iphigenia was missing. On the whole, I think probably it's a blindspot the poets share. I see a few inklings that they might have an occasional glimmer of a clue, however, if only a repressed one. For one, there's the compulsion to give Clytemnestra other motives ); for another, Sophocles' Electra is a mirror of Clytemnestra, and one who is for the most part portrayed as heroic and sympathetic. )

And at the end of all this, I sat back and asked myself what the answer was. What is the blind spot composed of? First, child murder isn't a uniquely horrible crime in the world of these plays; children are not conceived as sacred, innocent, or especially worthy of protection, but instead as extensions or property of their parents. ) But what's going on after that? I think that it's this, from Euripides' Electra:

CLYTEMNESTRA: How was your father's death not just and fair?

CHORUS: You’ve spoken fairly, with an ugly fairness. Wives should obey their husbands all the time, if they are sensible. Or if a woman thinks differently, I put her out of mind.


It is obviously Clytemnestra's crime, not Agamemnon's, that is qualitatively different from the others for the world of the tragedians. That's not because revenge killing is bad or because Iphigenia's murder wasn't wrong. No, it's because of two things: (1) Kings are worth more than other people and (2) Wives are not permitted to disagree with their husbands. This murder is different: it's the killing by a woman of "a nobleman, who's honored with the scepter Zeus bestows" (Aeschylus, Eumenides), not in combat but in his bath, wrapped in a cloak so he couldn't escape. It's not just that he was killed by a woman (an embarrassing fate only okay for commoners) using trickery (also only okay for commoners): it's that he was killed by his wife. Being chattel, women don't have the right to decide that their husbands deserve death; their judgment, like their persons and their property, is subordinate. A wife killing her husband is the ultimate transgression of this holy law attributed to Zeus: by placing her judgment above his, she illicitly assumes an aspect of masculinity.

Clytemnestra's monstrosity lies in daring to value her daughter's life equally with the life of a King, in daring to value her own moral judgment over that of her husband.


Footnotes )
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Reading Morris's fantasy novel with the nomadic descendants of the great House of the Wolf of the Goths, who patrol the borders of a settled agrarian civilization composed of other, distantly related, more modernized Germanic tribes, and was the inspiration for Tolkien's Dunedain.

The thing is that The House of the Wolfings, by pinning itself to the Goths repelling the Roman empire, is pretty definitely in the 1st century CE, and so The Roots of the Mountains, by narrowing itself to within a few hundred years after that,

CANNOT plausibly have a bowed string instrument.

(But they definitely do in the novel.)

Like sure, nobody has a document that says the Goths and other Germanic tribes definitely didn't have bowed string instruments, yet at the same time, the earliest evidence for a bowed string instrument anywhere in the world is in the 10th century. (I went and checked because it sounded so wrong as I was reading along. Like no that's definitely not the kind of instruments I thought these people had! And I'm probably right, which is odd, when it comes to this period and these cultures, because that was Morris's Special Interest.)

Can I just be off by five hundred years in my placing of this setting? No, because the whole central deal of this novel are Hun incursions, which were pretty much over before the year 500 CE. (True, the "Huns" in this novel are apparently supernatural monsters and not human people - I haven't met them yet, but the introduction explained this - but honestly, this defense is even weaker here than in the case of Tolkien. I mean, he literally calls them Huns! So it's definitely racist that they're horrible evil ugly dehumanized monster hordes, even if he then describes them as supernatural beings. I will not tackle this issue until I've read that part, however.)

I guess it's my dude William Morris who is uncharacteristically (given the context of his beloved special interest) mistaken. Had to happen sometime. Really, Who Cares? But I'm finding it distracting.
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WELL, as I embarked on the 5th novel I've read by Walter Scott (The Abbot, 1820), I have been taken by surprise!

The first few chapters have been ummm very hard to read. Not because they're boring (as in Waverley), but because they're a very clear picture of a child so neglected and badly parented that he has become violently abusive towards the servants by age 17.

It's not like Scott hasn't had bad people in these other books I read, or characters with a mixture of good and horrible qualities; but no bad parents to this extent. But he seems to maybe not realize that that's what he's written?

I have to finish the book to find out, but it's extremely unpleasant going! (Though the character is going to be an adult for most of the book, and hopefully at least the parental abuse will cease soon.)
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William Morris's The House of the Wolfings and The Roots of the Mountains

Almost done with House of the Wolfings, but I want to make one post after I finish both of them.



Walter Scott's The Monastery and The Abbot

I finished The Monastery last night. Overall, I liked it significantly less than The Antiquary, but I did enjoy it. It is about the Protestant Reformation in Scotland, and... it has its points, but... anyway. I didn't quite realize that The Abbot is basically volume 2, though. So I will read it before making a post.



I just finished the Oresteia of Aeschylus (trans. Sarah Ruden), Electra of Sophocles (trans. Mary Lefkowitz), and Euripides' Iphigenia among the Taurians (trans. Anne Carson) and Electra (trans. Emily Wilson).

These are all about the same saga, though: Agamemnon's murder of his daughter Iphigenia, his wife Clytemnestra's revenge-murder of him, and his son Orestes and daughter Electra's revenge-revenge murder of her. I have a lot to say, but I intend to read Anne Carson's An Oresteia (Carson's translations of Agamemnon by Aiskhylos and Elektra by Sophokles - which I just read translated by those other people - and Orestes by Euripides, which I haven't read yet). I bought The Greek Plays, ed. Lefkowitz & Romm, which contains 16 plays, to get the Wilson translations of Euripides, but when I opened it I got curious and started reading the others and completely forgot that I had bought Carson's An Oresteia the day before.

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When I first picked up one of the so-called "quest novels" of admired comrade William Morris (socialist, furniture and wallpaper designer, passionate medievalist fanperson), I was a little put off by the density and wordiness, as well as the ways they deviate from the modern novel. These are Victorian adventure novels inspired largely by medieval romance (eg Arthuriana), written in an artificially archaic style sprinkled with Middle English vocabulary (although I have since learned that a lot of it was actually from Scots, or rather was both, and he probably picked it up from Sir Walter Scott's Waverley novels, which were apparently his childhood favorites).

But after a while it was just this language - which I saw an academic in a Youtube lecture call "medieval eclectic" - that enchanted me the most about them. Read more... ) This is partly why I'm currently rereading all of them, after finishing the last one last year - I didn't have anything else to read that sounds like them. (But it's interesting reading them when I know more of the context, too.) In order of publication, then, this is where it stands: The Hollow Land (1856), A Tale of the House of the Wolfings, and All the Kindreds of the Mark Written in Prose and in Verse (1889) & its sequel The Roots of the Mountains (1889), The Story of the Glittering Plain (1891), The Wood Beyond the World (1894), Child Christopher and Goldilind the Fair (1895), The Well at the World's End (1896), The Water of the Wondrous Isles (1897), The Sundering Flood (1897).

So why are The House of the Wolfings and The Roots of the Mountains in italics? Well, that's because I have tried three times before to read The House of the Wolfings and I kept failing out of it because (1) it's about 30% rhyming poetry instead of prose, like a musical: the characters sometimes just break out into rhyming poems. (2) it's one of the least fantastic of his novels: it's about germanic tribes fighting the roman expansion from the tribes' point of view, and the fantastic elements are limited to the existence of magical dwarf-forged armor and seers with true visions of the future. (The Roots of the Mountains is a sequel, but generations later.) These are the only ones that aren't rereads, but I ran out of other ones, so I am determined this time. Also, I read Graham Seaman's 2003 introduction to The Roots of the Mountains:

If The House of the Wolfings was an admiring reconstruction of old Germanic clan-based society as a self-contained world, The Roots of the Mountains shows the ability of that society to revitalise others. The "others" in this case are another Germanic people; one settled in small towns and villages in the valleys at the foot of the mountains. They are a people in the process of losing their past[... ]; the heroic age is over for [them] [...]. Into this quiet, unromantic rural world come two outside forces: the descendants of the Sons of the Wolf themselves [...] who have migrated west to the mountains [...]; and the Huns, or 'Dusky Men'. Depleted in numbers (many have gone to fight as mercenaries for the Romans), evicted from their settlement by the Huns, the Sons of the Wolf still remember Thiodulf and their heroic past [...]. The Roots of the Mountains seems to be the story that inspired the subplot of the Dunedain, wanderers of fading heroic past defending the frontiers of the Shire against the Orcs, and the loves of Aragorn, Eowyn, Faramir, and Arwen in Tolkien's Lord of the Rings.


This sounds like it won't be mostly battles, hopefully, and it also sounds different from any of the other quest novels! But I have to finish the first one first.
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The next Euripides translations by Anne Carson I read were the four in Grief Lessons:

  1. In Herakles, the hero returns home just in time to save his family from execution by the tyrant who has usurped the throne, only to be driven mad (by Hera) and made to murder his wife and children himself.

    This play is most notable, as pointed out by Carson, for the ending, in which his loyal friend Theseus arrives as he returns to his right mind and prevents Herakles from killing himself. They leave together to build a new future. But I was also fond of the role of Madness, who protests her awful task only to be told by Iris, "Hera didn't send you here to practice sanity."


  2. In Hekabe, set after the Trojan War, the widowed Queen of Troy and mother of Hektor and Paris, now a slave being transported to Greece, is consumed by her grief and despair until the murder of her youngest son reignites her sense of purpose in a desire for vengeance on his murderer.

    Hekabe, for me, is fascinating because it's about the murders of two of her children, and while she is prostate with grief even before the first, her reactions to the two are so different. (This is about the aftermath of the Trojan War, so, obviously, discussion of child murder, war, slavery, and rape beneath the cut.)Read more... )


  3. In Hippolytos, the titular son of Theseus is a self-righteous woman-hater whose sex-repulsedness drives him to publicly deride the goddess Aphrodite, who engineers his downfall by making his stepmother Phaidra fall in love with him.

    The character interests me greatly because he seems to be a sex-repulsed asexual, dedicating himself to Artemis etc, at first. But Read more... )


  4. Then there's the strange tragicomic Alkestis, which tells of a husband who arranges for his wife to die in his place.

    Mostly tragic, it ends with a surprise twist and superficially (but doubtfully) a happy one: Herakles wins her back from Death and presents her to her husband... but she seems stiff and can't speak (for three days, we're told). Did she come back wrong? Is she really back? Etc. (Tumblr should love that.) Wikipedia tells me tantalizingly that whether Admetus, her husband, is selfish is a hotly-contested subject of critical debate, without any further reference. Read more... )


There are short introductory essays by Carson to each of the plays, plus two framing essays: "Tragedy: A Curious Art Form" and "Why I Wrote Two Plays About Phaidra."

I wasn't as taken with these as with Bakkhai, Carson's celebrated translation of The Bacchae, which premiered in 2015 with the enchanting Ben Whishaw as Dionysos (Wax and I both remembered the publicity photos of this production from Tumblr). But having recently read Hippolytus and Alcestis in alternate translations from the U of Chicago volume, I can still say that I liked Carson's more, for the most part.

Euripides

28 Mar 2025 06:46 pm
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I read Anne Carson's Bakkhai yesterday and then Medea translated by Oliver Taplin (University of Chicago Complete Greek Tragedies series).

And I did like the style of Taplin's translation, unlike all the old verse translations I've tried and quickly discarded so far.

But I liked Anne Carson's better. She hasn't done Medea though, and I wanted to start with that. Apparently she has done "ten ancient Greek tragedies – one by Aeschylus (Agamemnon), two by Sophocles (Antigone, Electra), and seven by Euripides (Alcestis, Hecuba, Herakles, Hippolytus, Iphigenia in Tauris, Orestes, and The Bacchae)" (according to Wikipedia).
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I continue rereading the mediæval-eclectic quest novels of my guy William Morris, founder of the Arts & Crafts movement, socialist, and arguably the greatest wallpaper designer in history (although Morris didn't really like wallpaper; he considered it a sad necessity because most people could not afford to cover their walls with tapestry, the perfect wallcovering. In Morris's ideal world, every object would be the lovingly decorated creation of an artisan who delighted in making it beautiful. When his friend designed a house for him shortly after his marriage, he invited all his pre-Raphaelite artist friends over and they had painting parties, hand painting the walls and furniture. But I digress).

This is Morris's last novel, published a year after his death. It's one of his most memorable plots, in my view. In the words of the introduction on Standard Ebooks, where you can download a nicely formatted edition:

[T]he novel follows Birdalone, a young girl who is stolen as a baby by a witch who takes her to serve in the woods of Evilshaw. After she encounters a wood fairy [who] helps her escape the witch's clutches, Birdalone embarks on a series of adventures across the titular Wondrous Isles. These isles are used by Morris both as parables for contemporary Britain and as vehicles for investigating his radical socialist beliefs. As Birdalone travels through the isles she slowly evolves into the embodiment of [Morris's progressive version of] the Victorian "[N]ew [W]oman," embracing hard physical labor, healthy exercise, higher education, socialist values, and financial freedom, while rejecting sexual exploitation, physical abuse of both women and children, and the restrictive sexual mores of the era. This makes her unique in the fantasy fiction of the era as one of the genre's first examples of a strong female hero.


A brief comment on that )

The Water of the Wondrous Isles is a deliberately allegorical story; the heroine's very name, Birdalone, is a term for the last surviving child in a family as well as an expression meaning simply "all alone" (and apparently has never been a name). The characters include two nameless witches as well as three color-coded pairs of knights and maidens: Aurea (golden, fem., Italian), Viridis (green, neut., Latin), and Atra (dark or black, fem., Italian), and their suitors the Golden Knight, the Green Knight, and the Black Squire (so-called, but actually a knight), though the suitors, unlike the ladies, also have ordinary given names. On the other hand, Birdalone meets such ordinary people as Laurence, Gerard, Roger, Jacobus, and Audrey, in presumably less symbolic portions of the story.

Also, I love the weird little departures from what might be considered good storytelling and how they reveal the author's character. Five years are elided in the middle, and not even at the beginning or end of a chapter: in the midst of one it's suddenly like 'and five years went by like that, but then...'. It's also very funny that several scenes and a bunch of details are devoted to making sure we know that Birdalone is learning calligraphy and illumination from a priest, and then when she sets out to earn her fortune she's like 'I have two crafts that I could earn my living in, calligraphy and embroidery!' and then the calligraphy (or indeed, books at all) are never mentioned again. Morris just wanted us to know that he also stans calligraphy because it's very cool and obviously the coolest heroine has to be amazing at it, but he didn't have time to fit it into the plot anymore.

Anyway, here's my detailed summary: The Water of the Wondrous Isles (1897) )


Here are a few of my favorite quotes from this book:

  • so she arose and thrust her grief back into her heart,

  • Read more... )
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  • [Shopkeeper and postmistress speaking:] "When he gets a frank he fills it up exact to the weight of an unce, that a carvy-seed would sink the scale—but he’s neer a grain abune it. Weel I wot I wad be broken if I were to gie sic weight to the folk that come to buy our pepper and brimstone, and suchlike sweetmeats."


  • "You may observe that he never has any advantage of me in dispute, unless when he avails himself of a sort of pettifogging intimacy with dates, names, and trifling matters of fact—a tiresome and frivolous accuracy of memory, which is entirely owing to his mechanical descent."


  • He who is bent upon a journey is usually easily to be distinguished from his fellow-citizens. The boots, the great-coat, the umbrella, the little bundle in his hand, the hat pulled over his resolved brows, the determined importance of his pace, his brief answers to the salutations of lounging acquaintances, are all marks by which the experienced traveller in mail-coach or diligence can distinguish, at a distance, the companion of his future journey, as he pushes onward to the place of rendezvous.


  • He hated greetings in the market-place; and there were generally loiterers in the streets to persecute him, either about the news of the day, or about some petty pieces of business.


  • "What say you?—in the language of the world and worldlings base, if you can condescend to so mean a sphere, shall we stay or go?"

    "In the language of selfishness, then, which is of course the language of the world—let us go by all means."

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