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So, you can see that wax finally betaed my storee and now I can post it! Also, it's too long for livejournal. Read it at cimorene.net.

Wake Up and Notice (≈ 21 000 words)
Bandslash: My Chemical Romance, Frank Iero/Gerard Way
NC-17; genderswap
Many thanks to [livejournal.com profile] bexless, a stellar cheerleader, and to [livejournal.com profile] wax_jism for beta.

Everyone just stared at everyone else for a second until Mikey mumbled, "Everyone turned into a girl except you last night, so I guess now there won't be anyone to kill spiders."

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Date: 2 Aug 2007 05:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paula0.livejournal.com
Oh, hey... That was cool! Funny, yet deadly serious somehow. And I found myself described at one point! Let me go find it. Here: "...but recently it depends more on the angle. It was more androgynous than actually completely girl-like..." Except it goes the other way around for me, I guess. :)

"but, like, who's ever feeling confident and emotionally balanced? Sometimes I think that's just a myth."

I think so, too. I've found that the people who claim to be emotionally balanced are usually the most fucked-up ones. :)

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Date: 3 Aug 2007 06:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
Hahahhahahahahahahaha. You're more girl-like than androgynous, depending on the angle?

I'm sure from Gerard's worldview, it's hard to imagine anyone ever feels confident and well-balanced. Not Okay is his themesong! There are probably people out there who think they are okay, though. Whether they actually are or not is a matter for debate...

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Date: 4 Aug 2007 05:37 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paula0.livejournal.com
You're more girl-like than androgynous, depending on the angle?

I think so, yes. I like to think I am androgynous - even though I don't really think about it except now - but in reality I think it's all about what people see. And they see a girl, as far as I know. I have never asked anyone and I never will. Why would I? So, the angle is not physical so much than a dark shade in people's brain. Kind of a mirror-image. I make no sense, again. Sorry.

There are probably people out there who think they are okay, though. Whether they actually are or not is a matter for debate...

I think it's all well as long as you don't THINK. When you start thinking you'll realize stuff about yourself and your life you necessarily didn't want to know about. Thinking, what a dangerous thing to do. :) So, eyes, very debatable.

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Date: 4 Aug 2007 08:02 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
Oh, I see what you mean now! Yes, I think a lot of people are more androgynous than they realise and the way they dress (or do their hair or whatever) is what really lets people categorise them at a glance. Of course there are some differences (or we wouldn't have facial surgery for transsexualism). But then there's the fact that the usual reaction to crossdressing and transsexuals is "is she or isn't she?" and that the most memorable movie transsexuals in the last couple of decades have been played convincingly by Hilary Swank and Felicity Huffman!

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Date: 4 Aug 2007 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paula0.livejournal.com
Most people don't even realize they are quite androgynous, yes, and that's okay. I for one am very conscious about myself and I observe myself a lot, so... (What did we talk about emotionally balanced people, again? ;) )
I have a workmate who's quite boyish and she can't understand why people think she's gay when she's not. I am not going to say anything, but that's the way people view the world in this town: boyish girl = lesbian, girlish boy = gay. Blah.

f course there are some differences (or we wouldn't have facial surgery for transsexualism).

True. Though, maybe "looking like a woman" and "looking like a man" is really just something people have created and keep up by "fitting in". It's not the same for transsexuals as it is for me, who's had the privilege to be born as a member of a sex that is compatible with my gender, of course not, so... I don't know.

the most memorable movie transsexuals in the last couple of decades have been played convincingly by Hilary Swank and Felicity Huffman!

Boys Don't Cry. I've seen it on TV a couple of times and now I have it on DVD, but I haven't been able to watch it yet because it makes me so sad. Transamerica, I loved it! :) Although, it would have been Way cooler if they'd had a transsexual actress to play the part of Bree. I bet the movie wouldn't have been that big of a hit then, but...

I could talk about these things for a long time, so sorry for babbling.

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Date: 4 Aug 2007 09:44 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
No no, that's cool, I find it interesting. One of the professors in my department (sociology, Åbo Akademi) specialises in transgender research and I wrote a small paper on it two years ago. Not that it was necessary to the research, but I followed some links from wikipedia and ended up surfing around a number of websites about the facial reconstructive surgery. The things I learned about the typical genetic differences between male and female bone-structure were actually really interesting and made me a lot more aware of regular people's facial structures when I observe them now. For example, the male jawline, the mouth, the upper lip, and the eyebrows/browbone are the most noticeable things. The male brow is more prominent, the mouth and jaw are wider at the bottom. They change the nose and the Adam's apple too of course. But there's such a range of appearances within the genders that they overlap a lot. I guess that it's probably more like general trends than dividing lines.

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Date: 4 Aug 2007 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paula0.livejournal.com
But there's such a range of appearances within the genders that they overlap a lot. I guess that it's probably more like general trends than dividing lines.

I think it's interesting that even if there is a range of appearances within genders there still is "an average". Well, of course there is, but why? Would everything go crazy if we didn't have an average to lean on? A box to put people into?

General trends? You mean like the things that are considered beautiful in certain times? (Me no speak English...) AnyWay, if you mean what I think you mean then I agree. :) What can I say?

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Date: 4 Aug 2007 04:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
Oh, I didn't mean the changing standards of beauty in different times. That's true too of course! By 'general trends' I meant that men are more likely to have wider mouths and bigger foreheads and woman are more likely to have smaller ones, for example. All men's aren't bigger than all women's, though.

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Date: 5 Aug 2007 06:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paula0.livejournal.com
Oh. Right. I feel a bit silly now, but never mind. :) I got your point! Hurray! If I think about big foreheads all I can see is a big bulky Neanderthal. Hahahha!

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Date: 5 Aug 2007 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
Hahah! Yeah, and sometimes that's not far from the truth. ;)

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