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[personal profile] cimorene
So we're watching Star Trek: TNG, and there's an American Indians episode. We immediately said "OH NO it's going to be full of fail, isn't it?"

It didn't really get off to a promising start when the Federation Council decreed over the protests of a colony world of American Indians that the colony was to be moved and the planet ceded to the Cardassians as part of a new treaty. The Enterprise was sent, over Picard's (and also Admiral Ncheyev's) protests, to relocate the colonists in what he pointed out unhappily was a disturbing historical parallel. In the first encounter, there was a mixture of a bunch of different Indian tribes represented, all wearing weirdly generic outfits and plastic beads, and we assumed that the painful badness was going to be about the honkies and Captain Picard saving the poor childlike Indians and reasoning with them...

BUT NO.

Then it turned out that this episode about white people relocating unwilling Indians isn't about the Indians at all.

In fact, it's about WESLEY CRUSHER'S MANPAIN.

The entire point of the Indians being present, we are explicitly informed by a Magical Indian possessed of psychic powers who approaches sulky!teenaged!Wesley at a banquet, is to HELP WESLEY. That's why the Enterprise REALLY came here! Luckily these Magical Indians are so mystical and can cure what ails sad white men of above average intelligence who have been gifted with every advantage in life up until they pissed it all away by participating in the coverup of an accidental death at Starfleet Academy, and are now butthurt because people for some reason censured them for that.

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Date: 28 Jan 2012 11:07 pm (UTC)
ithiliana: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ithiliana
That is I think my single most loathed episode and when I decided that Wesley's "MarySue"ism had no bounds.

I didn't like Wesley at the start.

I great to hate him even more over the seasons.

And this ep made me want to rage and throw things, preferably at Wesley (not the actor though who I gather is pretty cool and was bummed out by the fan dislike of his character) But really, Wesley sucked in so many different ways, and this was the absolute fracking end.

Grargh.

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Date: 28 Jan 2012 11:26 pm (UTC)
pocketmouse: Robert Duncan McNeill directing a Voyager episode (face)
From: [personal profile] pocketmouse
This is the real reason Chakotay hates Tom Paris.

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Date: 29 Jan 2012 03:33 am (UTC)
ithiliana: (Default)
From: [personal profile] ithiliana
*sporfles*

**offers you internet for the win**

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Date: 29 Jan 2012 04:21 am (UTC)
ursamajor: Picard, so serious (captain jean-luc picard)
From: [personal profile] ursamajor
Ugh, I cannot rewatch that ep.

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Date: 29 Jan 2012 08:12 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] lotesse
What is with the 90s scifi "Indian episode" thing? It's never a good idea, you guys. TOS at least has the excuse of being Bloody Old - the SG1 Indian episode, twentyodd years later, was only more insensitive and fetishizing.

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Date: 30 Jan 2012 03:31 pm (UTC)
phosfate: Ouroboros painting closeup (Default)
From: [personal profile] phosfate
It's not the Bloody Oldness -- fucking Get Smart did a more aware "Indian episode" than TNG.

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Date: 29 Jan 2012 09:16 pm (UTC)
krait: a sea snake (krait) swimming (Default)
From: [personal profile] krait
what ails sad white men of above average intelligence who have been gifted with every advantage in life up until they pissed it all away by participating in the coverup of an accidental death at Starfleet Academy, and are now butthurt because people for some reason censured them for that.

I... what... seriously?! That is Crusher's (back)story? o.O

I knew he was a disliked character, but as I've never seen any of TNG, I didn't know anything beyond the vague "he's a Marty Stu" accusations. No one backed that up by explaining that his epic manpain requires -- and receives -- whole planets of minorities to alleviate it. *boggling*

Remind me not to ever watch TNG, because I might spontaneously combust.

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Date: 1 Feb 2012 10:11 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kay_mulan
I like this one. But what do I know, I like 'em all! Um. Thinky thoughts like the posted above might follow but far, faar into the future.

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Date: 1 Feb 2012 10:13 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kay_mulan
Was seriously considering doing a "I am a person of color, thinking of minoring in Native American studies, Angry Little Asian Girl, who likes this episode" posted comment, but it just came out wheezy in my head so I didn't do it at all. But I am mentioning.

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