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[cimorene]

salon.com book review here: bush is an idiot, but he was right about saddam.

nemoricultrix, could you get me the text? ::pitiful look::

and... what do you (all of you) think?

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[guinevere33.livejournal.com]

Justin informs me that Berman is Jewish; that definitely influences how he addresses some of the points.

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[cimness.livejournal.com]

BERMAN.

that's the name of the scumbunny sellout star trek producer owner dude!

[ex-thewayout304.livejournal.com]

Berman's bracing new book, suggests that just as liberal-minded Europeans and Americans doubted the threats of Hitler and Stalin, enlightened Westerners today are in danger of missing the urgency of the violent ideologies coming out of the Muslim world.


hmm. i'd like to know who thinks that said liberals are ignoring said threats. i mean, aside from this guy.

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[cimness.livejournal.com]

well, what he means by 'ignoring' is probably something like 'opposing military action against iraq/military dominance in the mideast.'

it's possible he has a point regardless of bias, right? i mean, maybe fundamentalist islam is a greater threat than is generally assumed by people not brainwashed by the post-9-11 shit? maybe the admin accidentally hit on something right.

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[ex-thewayout304.livejournal.com]

but if you say "fundamentalist islam" the american public is going to think "anyone with dark skin".

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[cimness.livejournal.com]

i'm not saying it on the news. i'm just thinking it. you know, i wonder how the world is going to end and what it's going to be like in ten years and whether i'm ever going to come back to america again once i leave it. i wonder what it's going to be like in a thousand years, and if there could be the kind of apocalypse that leaves survivors and if we'll ever have interstellar travel. i don't think i can do much of anything, but i do like to try to understand things.

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[ex-thewayout304.livejournal.com]

of course, i'm just saying. i've thought about it because, really, who hasnt been affected by 9/11 in some form? i cant say i think about the apocalypse all that much, at least not since i left the church. i suppose there's no point in worrying about these things since we cant control them. i'll sit here in my nice little house in the middle of nowhere, thinking nothing can touch me because i dont live near anything important. then again, nagasaki wasnt exactly a military base, was it? i mean, yes, they made ships there, but the town itself was all civillians.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

i don't mean the religious apocalypse, just the eventual destruction of all or most of human life. it seems inevitable, not because of any sort of deity or anything, but because of human stupidity, and the entropy of the universe and whatnot. and mostly i think of it in terms of rather abstract speculation, as an sf writer and reader. as for towns in the middle of nowhere in america--probably safe from terrorist attack or war for now, bbut who's going to remain safe from our own government for long, when the McCarthyism is starting all over again and the security bills in the senate are trying to authorize secret arrests?

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[ex-thewayout304.livejournal.com]

even if we dont end up killing ourselves out, our sun will explode eventually. then where will we be? i suppose it goes back to what you said about survivors, sci fi and all that. i love my country in a "constitional convention, life liberty and pursit of happiness" kinda way, but lets face it, we're a country governed by people who cant help their fallacies. where can you go to be safe from that? britian? australia? finland/new zealand? i dont know if it can be done.

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[cimness.livejournal.com]

sure, people everywhere have fallacies. but it's not so VERY often that by a huge mess of coincidences a bunch of them come together to place a country in the throes of early-stage fascism.

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[ex-thewayout304.livejournal.com]

point. game: cim.

but, hey. election year next year.

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[cimness.livejournal.com]

i suppose i need to register and whatnot. and then i'll have to vote by mail. excitement!

[strangelette.livejournal.com]

Dude, you read my mind. I was going to post that anyway. V. good article.

I'll post it tonight after my test.