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is 46 square meters small for an apartment?

eta: it's TINY. say that's about 150 square feet, TOTAL. so that's 50 square feet a room, if the kitchen's a separate room. that's 5x10--the size of those u-haul trailers that you drag behind your car or truck. of course it could be instead, say, 8x8. maybe the kitchen is just one corner of one of the other rooms.

that seems rather high rent for such a little space. (418.80 euros a month?)

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Date: 3 Aug 2004 06:25 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com
tiny? for one, certainly not, not by European standards. For two, a little on a small side. But depending where you are.. I've live in Paris with my two parents (so 3 people, I was a teenager) in an apt of 56 sm total, divided into 2 bedrooms, one commone space/living room, a kitchen (tiniest ever), a bathroom and a hallway.

It wasn't even all *that* small. apart from the kitchen.

You'll get used to things being much smaller (roads more narrow, less lanes on the highways, houses and apts smaller, cars smaller, etc, etc)... I can be a shock at first, i'm sure, but it'll work out.

I have no idea about the price, though, as I don't know the area. In Luxembourg, something this size would be likely 1.5 times that at the very minimum. :(

space!babble

Date: 3 Aug 2004 06:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
i grew up in a farmhouse more than a hundred years old with ten foot ceilings and a hall twelve feet wide. my bedroom was more like ... 12x20 feet than 5x10 (in high school, and it was the smallest bedroom in the house). [livejournal.com profile] wax_jism's grandmother's house is smaller than the apartment my family's currently living in while our house is modified for daddy's wheelchair. and this is not a really nice house: it's large, but it's really cheap. i think wax's bedroom and her granny's put together and maybe the bathroom between them could all fit in our living room. i am used to wide open spaces. and i don't really mind getting used to small ones... although i have a certain fondness for spaciousness.

(on the other hand, i have a deep feeling of affinity for japan, and i've spent six weeks living very comfortably in a snug little house there that's even smaller than a finnish one, though rather extravagant by japanese standards.)

i guess it's a cultural thing. it probably seemed silly to people not to spread out when they first discovered they had what seemed like endless space over here in north america.

ps: thanks. you made me feel better--i was worried, trying to imagine living in a u-haul trailer (my uncle's analogy).

Re: space!babble

Date: 3 Aug 2004 08:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apoplexia.livejournal.com
Oh, it takes some getting used to, the whole tiny European apartments thing. Everyone used to come over to my old 70sm apartment and go: "wow, this is fucking huge." And I'd be all like: WTF are you on? My old place in Australia had more cupboard space than this. But eventually you forget all about it until you have to fit your parents in for a week. Then you discover just how tiny it is all over again.

Re: space!babble

Date: 4 Aug 2004 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wax-jism.livejournal.com
When I was living with my boyfriend, we had 65m2 and we thought it was ginormous. 46 might be a bit cramped or it might not, depending on how it's structured. With enough storage space it could be great.

My studio was 36m2, I think, and that was pretty sizeable for one person. (Plus it had lots of dead space because the building was a converted townhouse that had at one point been used as a grocery store, and my apartment was sort of leftover space.)

Re: space!babble

Date: 5 Aug 2004 08:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apoplexia.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, the way it's structured is so important. Although we had 70m2, there was so much dead space that it never really felt that big. It could have easily had an extra room if it had been better designed. What are you doing in Finland, by the way?

Re: space!babble

Date: 5 Aug 2004 09:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wax-jism.livejournal.com
What, me or Cim? I'm in Finland because I never left. Cim is coming... because I won't leave, I guess. ;) Actually because it's easier for her to get here than for me to get there.

Re: space!babble

Date: 5 Aug 2004 09:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] apoplexia.livejournal.com
I really have to start paying attention to who I'm replying to...

Re: space!babble

Date: 4 Aug 2004 06:11 am (UTC)
ext_230: a tiny green frog on a very red leaf (Default)
From: [identity profile] anatsuno.livejournal.com
the apt i described from Paris where the 3 of us lived would also fit entirely in my living room here in Lux, and on top of that here i have 3 bedrooms, a spacy kitchen and a bathroom, two toilets, a hallway big as an extra bedroom, and a 17m long hall...

I like space, and I need lots cos i've got lots of shit, too. But yeah, smaller's not all bad. *hugs*

I'm glad if it reassured you.

Re: space!babble

Date: 5 Aug 2004 11:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
it did!

look! blueprint (http://asiakas.poutapilvi.fi/tys/images/8942.gif)! it doesn't look bad at all. it might have some sort of balcony, given that exterior door and being on the third floor.

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