girlfriends and labels
23 Jan 2004 11:31 pm![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
you know what? i hate the word girlfriend. i just do. it has several associations for me, none of them good:
1. a pair of thirteen-year-olds, one girl and one boy. possibly in black and white, possibly exchanging a daisy chain or a plastic ring.
2. when you're in kindergarten and you 'marry' your 'boyfriend' using a toy plastic ring with another little kid officiating.
3. a gay man saying 'girlfriend' in that little voice.
4. a sorority girl. 'me and a couple of my girlfriends are going to the beach for a week.'
it doesn't convey the proper concept. what then? to say 'we're dating'? or 'cim's special friend'? 'significant other'? 'life partner'? the bottom line is that labels are odious when you've already got an idea of what you are, and then someone comes along later wanting to apply a label to it. labels are congenial only when you're familiar with them before you identify with them, and thus don't have conflicting clusters of associations for yourself and the word.
possibly labels are always odious, period, since they tend to have unpleasant effects.
but dad has kept saying to people 'cim's friend' all the time wax was here, dictating letters mostly but also out loud, and i just want to kick him in the nuts (which he wouldn't feel since he has no feeling below the nipples, but still). wtf is 'cim's friend'? she's not my fucking friend, you fucking twat. for one thing, i'm not ashamed, so why use a totally ambiguous word like that? for another thing, it sounds condescending.
1. a pair of thirteen-year-olds, one girl and one boy. possibly in black and white, possibly exchanging a daisy chain or a plastic ring.
2. when you're in kindergarten and you 'marry' your 'boyfriend' using a toy plastic ring with another little kid officiating.
3. a gay man saying 'girlfriend' in that little voice.
4. a sorority girl. 'me and a couple of my girlfriends are going to the beach for a week.'
it doesn't convey the proper concept. what then? to say 'we're dating'? or 'cim's special friend'? 'significant other'? 'life partner'? the bottom line is that labels are odious when you've already got an idea of what you are, and then someone comes along later wanting to apply a label to it. labels are congenial only when you're familiar with them before you identify with them, and thus don't have conflicting clusters of associations for yourself and the word.
possibly labels are always odious, period, since they tend to have unpleasant effects.
but dad has kept saying to people 'cim's friend' all the time wax was here, dictating letters mostly but also out loud, and i just want to kick him in the nuts (which he wouldn't feel since he has no feeling below the nipples, but still). wtf is 'cim's friend'? she's not my fucking friend, you fucking twat. for one thing, i'm not ashamed, so why use a totally ambiguous word like that? for another thing, it sounds condescending.
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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:35 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:42 pm (UTC)*hugs*
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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:43 pm (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:44 pm (UTC)Thankfully, I don't have the parent problem, yet. Since, you know, they don't know about her and all, but I can definitely see both of my parents using the 'friend' label. Something along the lines of, "Mandy's little friend." And just. Bleh.
We should maybe come up with our own word.
And wow, that's the longest comment I've ever left in your journal. Sorry.
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Date: 23 Jan 2004 11:49 pm (UTC)So yeah, it's not just a gay thing - it's a parent thing. And it's obnoxious. It may also be that your dad doesn't feel comfortable outing you to strangers, figuring that it's your business if you want to tell them. :: sigh ::
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Date: 24 Jan 2004 12:34 am (UTC)or not. but yeah.
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Date: 24 Jan 2004 06:52 am (UTC)(no subject)
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Date: 24 Jan 2004 10:04 am (UTC)Girlfriend? Not really.
Date: 24 Jan 2004 10:34 am (UTC)Re: Girlfriend? Not really.
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Date: 26 Jan 2004 03:29 pm (UTC)Fiancée? :)
(just lurking, don't mind me...)
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