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you know what? i hate the word girlfriend. i just do. it has several associations for me, none of them good:

1. a pair of thirteen-year-olds, one girl and one boy. possibly in black and white, possibly exchanging a daisy chain or a plastic ring.
2. when you're in kindergarten and you 'marry' your 'boyfriend' using a toy plastic ring with another little kid officiating.
3. a gay man saying 'girlfriend' in that little voice.
4. a sorority girl. 'me and a couple of my girlfriends are going to the beach for a week.'

it doesn't convey the proper concept. what then? to say 'we're dating'? or 'cim's special friend'? 'significant other'? 'life partner'? the bottom line is that labels are odious when you've already got an idea of what you are, and then someone comes along later wanting to apply a label to it. labels are congenial only when you're familiar with them before you identify with them, and thus don't have conflicting clusters of associations for yourself and the word.

possibly labels are always odious, period, since they tend to have unpleasant effects.

but dad has kept saying to people 'cim's friend' all the time wax was here, dictating letters mostly but also out loud, and i just want to kick him in the nuts (which he wouldn't feel since he has no feeling below the nipples, but still). wtf is 'cim's friend'? she's not my fucking friend, you fucking twat. for one thing, i'm not ashamed, so why use a totally ambiguous word like that? for another thing, it sounds condescending.

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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:35 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ex-thewayout304.livejournal.com
on the other hand, there isn't anything wrong with taking a word and making up your own meaning for it. girlfriend can be anything you want it to be. blah blah.

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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] secret-angel.livejournal.com
There is no need for titles unless you and the other person are comfortable with them. Don't let your dad make your relationship any less important by his stupid titles. He doesn't understand the closeness and intimacy a girl can share with another girl.

*hugs*

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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nostalgia-lj.livejournal.com
"other half"? Yeah, there isn't really a good other word for boy/girlfriend. There probably should be. Make one up and spread iT!

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Date: 23 Jan 2004 09:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] twirlygrrl.livejournal.com
I definitely understand what you're saying. I've said, "Oh, Brodie's my girlfriend" and had people think I just meant really good friend or something. It's irritating.

Thankfully, I don't have the parent problem, yet. Since, you know, they don't know about her and all, but I can definitely see both of my parents using the 'friend' label. Something along the lines of, "Mandy's little friend." And just. Bleh.

We should maybe come up with our own word.

And wow, that's the longest comment I've ever left in your journal. Sorry.

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Date: 23 Jan 2004 11:49 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] guinevere33.livejournal.com
Heh, don't feel too bad - two of my good friends have been dating since the first week of college 2.5 years ago, and his mom STILL introduces her as "Kyle's friend Alicia". And I've been introduced as Justin's "friend" a time or two as well.

So yeah, it's not just a gay thing - it's a parent thing. And it's obnoxious. It may also be that your dad doesn't feel comfortable outing you to strangers, figuring that it's your business if you want to tell them. :: sigh ::

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Date: 24 Jan 2004 12:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] elfiepike.livejournal.com
I like to say "____'s person," which is also ambiguous (i have several people i consider "my people" but not in a sexual way) but also seems, to me, both more mature and also slightly clearer in terms of at least an important relationship.


or not. but yeah.

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Date: 24 Jan 2004 06:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aynatonal.livejournal.com
Back when I had a girlfriend (sigh), I used to introduce her as "my girl." I might have been a bit possessive back then, come to think of it. Now that I have a boyfriend, "my boy," doesn't have quite the same ring to it, or rather, it sounds like when we're at home, I oil him up and he serves me things on a tray. Which is unfortunately not the case.

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Date: 24 Jan 2004 10:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamahooch.livejournal.com
I vote for "my LOVAH", a la Mike Meyers' Dieter (sp?) from SNL's "Sprockets" skit a few years back. Offers to pet your monkey are strictly optional.

Girlfriend? Not really.

Date: 24 Jan 2004 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tilney.livejournal.com
It's funny, but my friends actually started calling my girlfriend my 'better half' even before we were together, just friends, and it stuck and I find it very endearing. I'm all for quaint and funny. It sort of disarms people.

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Date: 26 Jan 2004 03:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selectivamnesia.livejournal.com
I'm partial to "soul mate," myself.

Fiancée? :)

(just lurking, don't mind me...)

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