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there are plots floating around in my head and colliding. this is not producing the usual result of one of them demanding to be written--it just makes my head hurt. maybe i will take some ibuprofen. am thinking blond thoughts all of a sudden and also about the outer corners of a boy's eyes, which are very nice, but rarely get any attention. eyelashes+water=way overused; must not return to that. and then there's dom/billy and the orli-gets-dehydrated plot that was going to use lij as an extra character without any sexual tension between them. now also have mutliple nsync plots. that star trek iv plot bunny that won't leave me alone since last summer. vague thoughts about cars and spaghetti, and imagination. and the power of--something. my subconscious is churning. am not in a fic-writing-worthy state yet, for anything but crap or smut-schmoop, which i do like, rather, but. but. feel my writing has been going downhill from "burn": "kiss," "arkansas," "home" and the birthday het vampire story were all worse. and i know this is because of not trying. i have story-feelers. i have to use them to prevent stories from unbalancing themselves and coming out the wrong shape.

damn, i sound like--i need to go to bed.

right after this greek homework.

[edit- i suck and i hate my computer. going to turn it off. then i'll be able to work. oh the pain.]

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Date: 19 Feb 2002 11:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silviakundera.livejournal.com
Well, the end of "Arkansas" was absolutely exquisite...

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 04:54 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
thanks. i wasn't too displeased with the end. but--overuse of nature. a bit obvious. there must be a way to do emotion without talking about the sky and shit. i feel like it's cheating.

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 12:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmazzy.livejournal.com
tennessee and burn are my two faves EVER!!!!

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 04:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
mine too--tennessee more than burn, for being a bit more tightly-knit.

thanks again, though.

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 05:03 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmazzy.livejournal.com
i am making one of my friend start reading them (or at least one of them) tonight. but she's slightly ewww about rps though....
but i think she'll move beyond that when she starts reading.

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 08:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
lol. don't be too mean to her.

the rps squick puzzles me. why would people think they give a damn? also: it's fiction. there is no such things as degrees of fiction--as if things somehow become more real if they're about the real world? no. gabriel garcia marquez and robert heinlein and... who writes realistic fiction? i don't know, i don't read any of it... okay, memoirs of a geisha... are all exactly the same amount made-up, which is entirely.

<--feels a rant coming on

otoh, it is useless to rant at illogic.

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 10:48 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmazzy.livejournal.com
well yeah. i don't have a problem with rps, but some people do... but then they just miss out on lovely things like your lovely lovely stories....

*grabs the stories and snuggles them and tells them they're beautiful and will be forever loved*

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 02:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
tennessee (http://www.rightthisway.net/cimorene/tolkien/mountains.html): *a good-natured, light-hearted story* awwww, thanks. *snuggles back*
burn (http://www.rightthisway.net/cimorene/tolkien/ashes.html): *sort of quirkily strange, self-absorbed story with overarching overdone Deep Meaning* well, this is quite astonishingly gratifying. *stands awkwardly within the snuggle*

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Date: 21 Feb 2002 01:35 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmazzy.livejournal.com
i wouldn't have described tennessee as light hearted! it has angst!!! but they are my two favourites. the two when i notice your unique style (that i just love to pieces) the most. it's kind fo less noticeable in your other pieces...

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Date: 21 Feb 2002 05:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
it has angst, yes. but from the very beginning it's moving in a straight line towards the end. viggo is in love and orli is in love and the only problem is that they don't know it, and they they even do know it, a long, long time before the end, like at the beginning of chattanooga. all that soothing stuff on the road trip, man. nature imagery. it's all about domestic bliss. serenity. moving at the proper pace towards the proper thing. like--love is calm.

in "burn" love is not calm at all. it sort of eats both of them up.

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Date: 21 Feb 2002 06:19 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmazzy.livejournal.com
mmm yes. i see. but i think i really like the whole non communication bit. it's exciting. but obviously not at all a good idea but poeple do do silly things....

how would you describe your writing style for those two? cos those are the two i've noticed with the most similar style (which i love). and i've been trying to describe it, but failing. not even sure which tense and person you're writing in. my knowledge about grammer and all that stuff is very poor.

at school we were supposed to spend equal times on english lit and lang, but our teacher was a freaky poet and we only did lit; spent all our time reading dickens and shakespeare so i never got all the terminology. we all struggled in our lang exams....

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Date: 21 Feb 2002 08:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
well, there is a note about it in tennessee. tennessee is split between past tense (i wrote) and present tense (i write) and future tense (i will write). so there's stuff that happened before (new zealand), stuff that's happening now (camping in tennessee, first road trip), and stuff that hasn't happened yet (future).

burn is split between present (i write, i come), past (i wrote, i came) and past perfect (i had written, i had come). past perfect= things that happened in the distant past. ie, you stand in the past and look back on--the past of the past, if that makes sense. that is for their old history up until sean's wife leaves him. then it switches to simple past at the end of "ashes," and it's that from the time christine goes until the night when they walk outside/first have sex. that night starts the present, and the rest is in the present.

of course, the different timelines are mixed up a little.

having english as a non-native language has got to screw you up something fierce with this.

first person: i write
second: you write
third: he writes
plural first, third: we write, they write

i'd say it's heavily stylized. emotion is closely linked to the natural world. in tennessee, there is a lot of domestic--linking. not just imagery, a la the cat, the teapot, but a lot of dialogue, etc --situations. you know. it's third-person narrator (ie, i say "viggo says/said," not "i say/said" or "you say/said"), but i blend third-person and first. the narrator doesn't know everything--it's really viggo (or lij, or sean) talking through that filter, and what and how they think is reflected in their phrasing. ie, during sex and highly emotional moments, there are more incomplete sentences. it's also very lyrical, a lot of focus on the way things sound, a lot of adjective and fused metaphor, a lot of breaking the traditional rules of english composition--with a purpose, of course, not because i don't know them :).

--is that what you were talking about?

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Date: 22 Feb 2002 12:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kmazzy.livejournal.com
oh. even the way you describe your pretty writing is pretty.

i understand a lot better now and after reading the explanation on the web page. but like i said, this means tonight i must reread both tonight with a new perspective and understanding.

#vou pelos campos a perguntar onde estas...#
have that in my head now. i'd better not be singing it at work all day or i will get frowned upon.

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Date: 20 Feb 2002 08:13 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
i mean my favorites that i've written, of course.

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