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new kick-ass icon. hm. wait. i know i had something else to say. okay, when i think of it, i can post this.

i need a method of food-preparation that takes less time than making those packets of noodles. i can't keep having toast. for one thing, the bread has refridgerator burn; for another, it's, uh, boring. and not very nutritious. my hair is so annoying. maybe i will cut it.

would anyone call sherlock holmes an archetype? i can't think of examples of his kind of character from literature before him--you know, sort of robotic, with the theme that superhuman intelligence (computer-like, although when he was written they didn't have computers) gets in the way of 'being human'--properly emotional and whatnot--star trek dealt with this theme in tiresomely repetitive detail, and has done for long enough to spread it out into popular culture--so that you see this kind of robot-guy character in cartoons, in star wars, perhaps, to a certain extent, and then you see it done with obsessive/compulsive scientists elsewhere, in movies. but can anyone think of examples that precede conan doyle (the late 19th century)?

Holmes was preceeded by...

Date: 6 Jul 2003 01:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
Edgar Allan Poe's detective, C. Auguste Dupin, among others. But Dupin is the most obvious model.

Re: Holmes was preceeded by...

Date: 6 Jul 2003 02:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
there's some reference to him in sherlockian canon, i know, but i've never read any. holmes says something disparaging about his methods. :} but i didn't gather that he had that same sort of... theme.

...cool. :)

Holmes being disparaging about Dupin was...

Date: 7 Jul 2003 01:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] selenak.livejournal.com
...an in-joke by Arthur Conan Doyle (on Holmes' expense). Doyle said, as himself, that if every writer who owed a debt to Edgar Allan Poe would contribute a coin there would be a mountain high to the sky.

Re: Holmes being disparaging about Dupin was...

Date: 7 Jul 2003 09:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
he's quite right. the same could be said for him, now--not that they're quite unique in that way.

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Date: 6 Jul 2003 07:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mamahooch.livejournal.com
Well, this probably doesn't really count, but in many mythologies, the wisdom god/goddess is celibate. Sorry, that probably didn't work at all with what you were asking...

Re:

Date: 6 Jul 2003 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
heh heh. no, it has a bit of bearing anyway.

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