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wax has lost a ton of weight and now is skinnier than she was when i first met her at [livejournal.com profile] devon's place, partially because she's been eating almost exactly half as much as she used to. not that she's malnourished or anything. it's a bit alarming that so many people in the west are capable of eating more than twice what would be an ample diet for them, but i know i do it sometimes too.

we went with Brother Windows and his  pregnant wife to take her mom out for her birthday at a nice restaurant, and by "we" i mean that Brother Windows's wife picked up the check and wax plans to pay them back later. it's not a very good idea to give yourself under two hours to eat a three-course meal at a fancy restaurant, even if said restaurant is practically deserted and efficient. in fact, we managed it, but wax's mom was moaning and fluttering and practically hyperventilating with stress the entire meal, and basically being as anxious as my neurotic dog, and much more anxious even than my mom (although less angry). every now and then someone would say "calm down, mother" or "i'm sure it will be fine" and she'd snap, "i KNOW that!" or "i'm TRYING to calm down!" or "it's just that i'm STRESSED!" the dinner was nice. i ate half of wax's salad and an artichoke bruschetta that was totally awesome. in my view, artichokes are definitely the noblest vegetable.

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Date: 1 Feb 2007 10:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] almostnever.livejournal.com
I kept rereading your first paragraph and trying to figure out why it was bothering me. Finally I put my finger on it-- you said Wax is eating half what she ate before, then you said "people in the west are capable of eating more than twice what would be an ample diet for them" which makes it sound like Wax was eating twice what would be an ample diet for her, and now that she's halved her food consumption, she's eating an ample diet. But if she's losing weight, she's not getting an ample diet (which is fine if she wants to lose weight), she's getting less calories than she needs and her body's burning fat to make up for it.

It doesn't really matter because you didn't say that directly, you just made an observation (which is true) about eating habits in general, but it kept bothering me and I just now worked out why and... felt like saying so for... a reason... which will come to me any minute now, I'm sure.

Any minute.

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Date: 1 Feb 2007 12:59 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cimness.livejournal.com
i'm not sure that wax actually ate 200% of an ample diet at any time, although she did eat more than she needed to to be healthy (maybe it was more like 170% of one, if you averaged it out), but plenty of people eat a lot more than she used to do. even before she didn't grossly overeat. with the latter sentence i wasn't thinking about wax, in fact - there was a whole mental tangent about portion sizes at restaurants, obesity rates, and the amount of food thrown away in western societies, which i didn't write down.

that said, though, i think her diet is ample - for her needs/health, i mean - even though she is losing weight. it's sufficient to keep her healthy, give her enough energy, and keep her free of unpleasant hunger, with the occasional spell of feeling stuffed to the gills. her meals are fairly rounded and fairly regular.

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