veronica mars!

[cimorene]

OH MY GOD, VERONICA MARS WAS SO COOL.

Let it be taken for granted that the spirit of this entry is in all caps, and I am typing normally only to spare your eyes, because I am still caught up in a whirlwind of squee. This is my favourite show with SO MUCH REASON, and there was so much to love and so much to guess along with, so many little twists this time, without ever seeming gratuitous and cheaty like the s1 finale did.

MINDY O'DELL: +++! Hotass! Femme fatale look! Pathos!!
LANDRY: +++! He loves Veronica! He almost cried about Mindy... and then he went and SOUGHT REVENGE! He's unscrupulous about using his little assistant boy of the unrequited lovin'!
LITTLE ASSISTANT BOY: +++++ Let's just count the ways to love him! Unrequited crushing, check. Pompous asshole with an undertone of real patheticness, check. Apparent incompetence and puppy dog eyes overlaying true mastermind, check. Psycho stalking of Landry, check. Veronica's little sidekick, check. His excited faces when she called the witness's son, check.
DADDY MARS ♥ VERONICA: +++ Veronica tricks him, he gives her permission to break the law in search of inadmissable evidence, they banter over the dinner table. An exemplary father-daughter dynamic!
LOGAN: eh...?
MADISON: ++
THE FACT THAT VERONICA CAN PUT LOGAN ON THE BOYFRIEND BLACKLIST WITHOUT EVEN TRYING: LOL

The insurance. The creepy sidekick. The omg who did it? Mindy actually turning up dead! I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. ♥♥♥ And by catching creepy assistant now they've really, er, so to speak, killed off the heroine in the beginning of Psycho. Well, the middle. What's coming up next?

Comments

[oneko-briar.livejournal.com]

THE FACT THAT VERONICA CAN PUT LOGAN ON THE BOYFRIEND BLACKLIST WITHOUT EVEN TRYING: LOL

I was on the edge of my seat too. I hadn't seen a VM episode in a loong time so this was really good to start off with because of all of the above and because it was the resolution to an arc which, while it makes me less sympathetic to the characters since I don't "know them" as well is really great for not being lost on stuff. Other arcs like Logan and Veronica breaking up, too, and Wallace being awesome. I totally agree with you on everything! :)

[cimness.livejournal.com]

I guess it was a fairly good place to come in because there was a fair amount of summarising of recent plot points of the investigation, in the course of Daddy Mars' and Veronica's questioning. But I can't see that coming in at near the end of a season after an extended break is really a good idea, and VM is an incredibly complex and subplot-heavy show.

[oneko-briar.livejournal.com]

One time I commented on how much I've learned to like Grey's Anatomy or whatever and you responded I think by saying it sucks and CSI is better and you used a CSI icon which I found fascinating because it reminded me of Fight Club.

I watched a couple of episodes recently and I liked it. Is it an incredibly complex and subplot-heavy show as well? I think the episodes I watched were separated by a couple of seasons. I think I'm missing a lot of arcs? Can you give me a summary type thing? I don't mind being spoiled, I think it will help me understand the characters more. I only know the names of Grissom and Sara, but I recognize the Fight Club guy, the black guy, and the blonde chick...

[cimness.livejournal.com]

Hmmm, well, I contrasted CSI and Grey's Anatomy because they air opposite each other, so it wasn't completely pulled out of nowhere. They compete for ratings. Even now that I'm enjoying GA more, I prefer the CSI genre and style to the girl-magazine-come-to-life that is Grey's Anatomy.

But one of the genre differences is that CSI isn't a soap-opera, arc-laden show with one long storyline. The continuing storylines are in the background and for the most part it remains episodic television and there's no real need to watch it in order or keep up with things. Since the plot arcs are subtle and come out in dribblets, I suppose missing too much of it or watching too out of order could result in missing them entirely, though.

Grissom moved to Vegas at the beginning of season 1 to be in charge of the crime lab, and Sara, the brunette, followed him shortly thereafter as a favour because they were short-staffed. She was a former student/protegé from his job as a professor, and came as a favour, originally temporary, but she was in love with him, which I believe he was at first too clueless to even realise. There was a long plot with them. It wasn't clear whether Grissom was genuinely uninterested in her or just rejected the idea of any sort of emotional involvement, but he turned her down several times; she came close to being alcoholic in season 2, I think, and spent a night in jail once, after which she cleaned up and started seeing some other guys, but she was still carrying a torch.

Catherine's second in command. She's got a child and is divorced. She used to be a stripper and her father is a big, mobbed-up casino owner. She hated him, kind of, but her mom - also a stripper, from one of his clubs - still loved him, and slept with him from time to time. Over the course of the show their relationship got better, but her feelings were always mixed. Her ex was a rat's arse and she had bad luck with dating various people. From late season 3 sexual tension between Catherine and Warrick started to grow more and more intense, but they both kept backing off. Then in a surprise move Warrick got an overnight marriage to a chick he was dating. Catherine was shocked and they had a short conversation once in which she obliquely referred to her attraction to him and told him that it was her own fault, but that she was finding it hard to let go of her "fantasy". Since then, Warrick has had at least a couple of marital troubles, but his plot isn't front and centre.

Nick is Grissom's protegé, more or less. He's the one who used to have a shaved head. They have a close father-son-ish relationship. At one point Nick dated a hooker, whom he earnestly liked, but she was murdered. He's not much of a ladies' man since then, but he seems to have recovered emotionally. At the end of s5, he was kidnapped and held underground, buried alive, for the length of a special episode. He had some PTSD from that, but the worst of the panic and stuff has faded and he's doing well.

Warrick and Nick are buddies, sort of like brothers. Have been from the beginning. The whole lab are really close, though. Warrick is black.

Greg, the blond, used to be a DNA technician, but he wanted to become a CSI, too. He went through the training and passed. He's been on the team for a couple of years.

Grissom's emotional repressed-ness faded gradually. He dated a smart dominatrix briefly in s3 but then they broke up, and he even went on a single date with a colleague from another shift, Sophia, who had a gigantic crush on him, but they didn't follow that up. He really has been in love with Sara too, apparently, but afraid to give in to his feelings. In s6 there was a tense situation where Sara's life was in danger and he panicked. That may have been the breaking point for him. They've been seeing each other on the down-low for a little while now.

[oneko-briar.livejournal.com]

Thank you for pretty much covering anything I might want to know about the series. The only thing I knew about CSI before watching some was that there was some Grissom/Sara on the radar of a couple of people mentioning it. Of course it's very intriguing that he did in fact was in love with her back. You're right about GA having the same time slot. I hadn't noticed because I don't usually stray outside the parameters of my usual watching habits, it's just that GA was a repeat so I luckily caught CSI while flipping through channels. So when GA comes back I will probably be watching that but I also get Spike TV (the manly channel. something like that) and although I don't know the specific dates and times yet, I do know they show back to back episodes of CSI and I will probably find out when for the times when I'm sure I want to see good TV, preferably TV that I haven't seen before, and CSI is shiny in that it's intelligent and now I have the backstory (and future story, since the re-runs are I think several seasons back) to get into it more.