and because they don't go to the internet you can't just tell them "google X"

[cimorene]

I've noticed a distinct pattern in some fannish people I know IRL, which is that the ones who don't Go Here in fandom never know when people and movies are canceled or on notice and usually haven't even heard a hint of why they're problematic, leading to hundreds of instances of this conversation:

THEM: I saw [media thing associated with a controversy].
ME: Yikes...
THEM: It was so good!

Explaining the controversy isn't that difficult if it's just something like "Actually it turns out that the director/writer went on a bigoted rant/has been accused of sexual harrassment" or "The role of X was whitewashed". But in the case of the well-meaning but clueless social-justice-supporting white people - initially mostly my parents, but a few members of my generation who just happen to also be Luddites - they never seem to notice cultural appropriation, white savior narratives, fridging, or unfortunate political ramifications, and the repetitiveness of this same consciousness-raising conversation with its small list of curated reference links starts to feel uncomfortably didactic, especially because the more awkward I feel, the harder I have to work to explain coherently.

The temptation is strong to just say nothing about it to escape this, but it seems a bit shady to not even indicate I was put off by something about it, if they were engaging me in fannish conversation in good faith.

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[phosfate]

It's a real-life group, and their facility with digital media was not, last I looked, the best. Black Klingon guy occasionally started a blog, which would consist of one or two deeply emotional posts about friendship and then stop. Another's hobby is posting eulogies for dead actors. I was on the same DS mailing list with another, who specialised in gossip and fabrication, but it was so huge (like 50 pages a day, remember when that could be a thing?) that it was easy to avoid her. We were all deeply fucked up in our own various ways, and the only genuine villain bailed early, but I was very happy to make much better friends later on.

I still wonder what Black Klingon guy was expected. I mean, did he think Worf was going to say "jive turkey" a lot?