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[cimorene]

books to get at library:

narnia (lewis)
a ring of endless light (l'engle)

Comments

[adventureman.livejournal.com]

You say Narnia like it's one book!

[cimness.livejournal.com]

no i don't. not in the least.

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

narnia's one book for me. i found an anthology. yay! have you read it ever?

[cimness.livejournal.com]

3rd/4th grade. hardly any memory of it.

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

same here! i'm going to read it again soon, though... i remember it was awesome.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

i have a strong feeling it pales with age. wax tells me so in fact. but i'd like to look at it with an older eye. see what i really think about allegory and what i think he thought of it.

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

you're probably right. in fact, that's the very reason i don't want to re-read the "so you want to be a wizard" series. i adored it when i was younger, but now i think i might find it silly. some things are best left behind you, perhaps.

but i still want to re-read the narnia books.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

yeah. there's the tolkien connection, and then the meta question. and besides, i don't remember the plot!

i don't know where that comment thread about my prospective tim/gary middleaged story was. in your journal somewhere?

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

there's a bit here: http://www.livejournal.com/users/cimorene111/1466251.html
and more elsewhere too.... i think. perhaps in the rosnguil community? we have so many comment threads...

but yeah. the inklings! :D what is the meta question?

[cimness.livejournal.com]

oh, um. hum. i mean, the meta...ness because of, say, lewis's big deal about allegory, and the accusations that lotr was one, and tolkien (who's supposedly a big friend and fan, right?) being rather scathing about allegory in response. and. er. the fact that the real world *and* the fantasy/allegory world exist within the series, since they're real kids who go through the door or what-have-you--sort of like how there's hamlet in rosencrantz and guildenstern are dead. which gives it an implicit meta--a way to look at it where everything is a commentary on the relationships between [art, lit, poetry, religion, fantasy?] and real life.

we DO have so many comment threads, i was just realizing as i went to look for it! but i did find it. finally. :)

and i saved it. in case i'm moved.

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

so a meta is when two things in literature are related? i've never heard that term before.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

it's like--meta-physical, you know? meta means 'about but outside of,' i believe. more or less. perhaps 'about the structure of' or something? anyway, er, in fandom, it means discussion and, like, study *of* fandom. and fanfic. and it also refers to self-referential fic, say, where the characters read fic. if you see what i mean.

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

ooh, i understand. yeah that makes sense now.... i'm pretty interested in meta, then. like, the study of fandom. i did a paper on fanfiction last semester! it was quite bad but definetely a start.

so yeah, with narnia, i can definetely see the "meta" potential, if you studied it in context of who wrote it, with lewis's relationship to tolkein (and therefore, narnia's relationship to middle earth). that would actually be an interesting topic to look further into.

[cimness.livejournal.com]

re-reading ahoy then! ;) we can chat about it after we've read it.

[wolfsage.livejournal.com]

'twill be a while, but yes, sounds good!