I've been laughing about a post I've seen on Tumblr about Our Flag Means Death: besides everybody plotzing over how much they're enjoying it of course, there's also obviously stratospheric amounts of shipping, and a post from a Kiwi going round that I've seen a few times that says something like, 'I hope you, the World, know how traumatic it is for us in New Zealand that people are thirsting for Rhys Darby. It's like if the whole world saw your dad's penis.'
Wax and I were chuckling about this because Taika Waititi and Rhys Darby are also very old friends, of similar age, who are both Kiwis and are actually both dads, but obviously Taika doesn't have Dad Energy at all. And Rhys Darby, I guess, is nothing but Dad Energy. (I've only seen him before in the Jumanji movies, not being fully up on Kiwi comedy, but apparently Wax knew who he was.) And obviously nobody in New Zealand can be upset about people thirsting over Taika, or if they were, they would surely be used to it by now.
This reminded me of discussion after Good Omens (TV) aired a bit -
here's the post I made then about Michael Sheen being fandom's new boyfriend (unexpectedly) and that viral tumblr post about how someone expected everyone to thirst for David Tennant and instead fandom was like 'michael sheen raw me'. But nobody in Britain or Wales was saying they would be traumatized by people thirsting over Michael Sheen, that I heard; that would have been silly. Well, partly because he's had memorable roles since he was a twink and has doubtlessly been thirsted over plenty of times before, but also because he's such a chameleon as an actor that his roles are frequently unrecognizable from each other. In other words, when Michael Sheen is being himself he has INCREDIBLY Dad Energy, just... off the charts, and adorably so, unlike David Tennant, who is about the same age and also has like five kids?? to Sheen's two. But Aziraphale doesn't have Dad Energy, nor do many of his other characters. (They tend to all have different energy.)
Whereas Rhys Darby, according to Wax, is the kind of comedian who always plays himself more or less (a fully valid and not at all inferior way of being a comedian!), and he has the same Dad Energy in real life and in his roles. Also because of this, no doubt, people feel they've grown up with him and he's a bit more like
their dad.
Wax had an added dimension to add because her dad was a quintessential Hot Dad. He was a charismatic guy everyone was friends with, an extrovert I guess, and he had an unfortunate habit of hanging around outside their farm shirtless and no doubt in short-short cutoff shorts and wooden clogs (it was the 80s and early 90s after all). Her friends thirsted and it was horrible. My dad also did stuff in the yard shirtless in cutoff jeans, but he was a cute cuddly little nebbishy bear: buddha belly, covered in brown fur, wild "Mountain Man" beard (as my mom called it). People who weren't even my friends - people I had no reason to suppose knew where I lived - would ask me at school if that was my dad they saw outside my house dressed like this and chuckle.
I wasn't consumed with embarrassment though, because this is standard for yardwork unless you're a WASP or something. Or possibly because I was a weird kid and couldn't imagine being embarrassed by my dad? In any other context, my dad was that dad that every other kid was jealous of. The INCREDIBLY cool dad. He used to come to school to eat lunch with me every couple of weeks when I was 8-10 and there would be legit scuffles among my classmates to sit on the other side of him and get his attention. Everybody's favorite uncle. He still is btw.
But this means he has a lot more Kooky Uncle energy than Dad Energy, I guess? Like, he very much IS a dad, but as a cerebral, nerdy, formerly twinky jew, I guess he was always so much of an oddball that his personality and his masculinity are just WAY too far from stereotypical American masculinities for him to ever fit a typical template. (The stereotypical Dad template in America is very much informed by middle-class WASP background and by a certain degree of repression etc caused by the wounds of toxic masculinity, and that stuff mostly has missed my dad for the aforementioned demographic reasons.) Anyway, nobody was thirsting after him to my knowledge, although I'm sure if he were a character on tv they would (because the only quality necessary for someone to thirst is celebrity, period).