cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (godlike)
"Is there anyone who would like to raise their hand and tell a reason they have why Cim is so nice?"

  • "Because she helped us find pants for Barbie when we were playing Barbies"

  • "Because I like her"

  • "... I forget"

  • "Because she's a good friend"

  • "... Yes, Child Who Forgot Before?" "Mine was the same"

  • "Because she's just nice"

  • "Mine was the same too"

  • "Me too"

  • "Because she helped me and Aaro clean up the Legos from the floor"

  • "Because she never has nail polish." "Oh? But she has nail polish on now." "That's what I've got."
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (crack)
CHILD: What are you doing?
ME: Knitting a cardigan.
CHILD: Oh, who for?
ME: Well, maybe myself.
CHILD: Oh, you must be making one for everybody!
ME: Uh, no, there wouldn't be time for that, it takes quite a long time...

#and not even if you paid me but it would cost like a hundred bucks
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (workout)
ADULT: Girls, now it's time to clean up. Yesterday you didn't clean up very quickly and I had to come help you, so I hope that doesn't happen today. The whole room has to be clean before we go outside so they can clean the floors, so when I come back in five minutes, I hope the room looks really tidy!

[SHE GOES AWAY AND THE THREE GIRLS CONTINUE PLAYING, GIGGLING, SHRIEKING AND THROWING BARBIES]

[A COUPLE MINUTES PASS]

FOUR-YEAR-OLD: WAIT! We were supposed to be cleaning!!

4YO #2: GASP!

4YO #1: Hey! Let's clean up as cats!

4YO #2-3: YAAAAAAAAY!

4YO #1: MEOW!!! [FLINGS HANDFUL OF BARBIE CLOTHES INTO THE BIN]

4YOs: MEOW! MEOW!

[THEY CRAWL AROUND ON HANDS AND KNEES SHOUTING 'MEOW' & THROWING BARBIES INTO THE BIN]
cimorene: abstract painting with flower in bright, warm colors (perfect)
5-YEAR-OLD BOY: I want one of the girls to swing with me but they only want to swing with each other!
OTHER 5-YEAR-OLD BOY: They never want to swing with me either!
5YOB: It's not fair if they only swing with each other! And they also don't want to play with us hardly ever! They almost only play together! It's not faaaiiiiir!
ME: No, that isn't unfair. They get to decide what they want to do. Everyone gets to decide who they want to play with, and that is fair.
5YOB: Yes it is unfair and I can prove it! Because I also want to to share a tire swing with them, but they won't let me!
ME: You can have a turn on the swing, but if they want to leave they don't have to play with you...
5YOB: Look, one of you swing with me now because there aren't any free swings! One of you pick. No? Okay then I'll pick... like... um... Girl A!
ME: No, they get to decide themselves what they want to do. Girls, you can stay here and swing with 5YOB or you can pick up your toys from the sandbox.
BOTH GIRLS: WE WANT TO CLEAN UP TOGETHER!
5YOB: UNFAIR!!!!
ME: It isn't unfair. Enough.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (srs bzns)
"Let's pretend your car falls in love with me, but I don't love it. Okay?"
cimorene: Photo of a woman in a white dress walking away next to a massive window with ornate gothic carved wooden embellishment (distance)
It's kinda funny how 6-year-olds don't really grasp causality.

Like, you were the only ones in the hall. There was no way for anyone to enter the hall without being heard. Two adults know you were there. We witnessed an object fly through the air from the hall door and land in the kitchen. The object is still there.

So there's literally no way that none of you threw the object. It is inanimate. You cannot convince the adults that you are innocent of affecting the physical position of this object because the laws of physics prevent this from being true.

Two adults are not going to believe you guys above the laws of physics, which have never let them down.

This is a bad lie.

The words you were looking for were "I didn't see who threw it." If you all said that, nobody would know which ones were lying, although we still wouldn't believe you. If you all claim that definitely none of you touched it, then you're all presumed guilty.

Though some more guilty than others by virtue of a behavior pattern of literally always, 100% of the time, being bad, usually for no discernable reason.

After Apprentice Child Nurse Coworker put some gentle individual pressure on them the adorable child who is my favorite male kindergartener squealed on the others. I knew my fondness was justified.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (godlike)
CHILD: Welcome to our store - come buy some stuff.
ME: Okay, what do I owe you?
CHILD: Well, how bout you pay, like... 22 spiders.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (stfu)
CHILD: This is my lightsaber. [His lightsaber is made out of mostly-red legos.]
ME: Oh, what color is it? What color is the light? [CHILD HESITATES] Is it red?
CHILD: It's green AND red. It's multi-colored. It's a disco light.

KINDERGARTENER: Can I try out that balloon pump?
ME: I don't know - is it too hard? Do you need help from an adult?
KINDERGARTENER: Some of the other kids did it yesterday... why are you wearing so much mascara?

CHILD: Kiwi, two kids said that your picture was the ugliest picture ever drawn!
KIWI: Um, oh no.
ME: You know, I heard the boss say this morning that the one who says something is actually that thing themselves.
CHILD: ... :D :D :D HEY, KIDS, GUESS WHAT!
(Hopefully being the ugliest picture ever drawn wasn't too upsetting for those kids?)


And a bonus.

CHILD IN THE ELEVATOR DRESSED AS A FIREMAN: There's a fire in the building!
ME: Uh-oh, then I should go down instead of up!
CHILD, cautiously: Because... of... that there's a fire?
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (workout)
LAPSI 1: Sä olet ihan lapsi!
AIKUINEN: Mikä sinä sitten olet? Aikuinen?
LAPSI 1: Mä olen melkein aikuinen.
LAPSI 2: Ei, ku sä olet lapsi. [MIETII] Sä olet IHAN lapsi.


And here's a few things that do translate:

CHILD 1: We can't do this. We need help.
CHILD 2: We need help from people [IN A WAY WHICH IMPLIES THEY ARE NOT PEOPLE]

.

CHILD: Hair styling is also my hobby! Everything is my hobby!

.

CHILD: How old are you anyway, 40?
ADULT: 26.
CHILD: That's almost 40. My mom is 50 and you're almost that old.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (srs bzns)
My coworker asked me to wake the naptime stragglers & Child Who Always Wants Adult Attention was still lying there, unspeaking, even after I made three trips over the next five minutes attempting to request, command and cajole her.

"You won't have time to eat snack with everybody" left her unmoved, as did "Everybody else is up playing already" and "You have to get dressed and eat so you can go outside and play."

Finally I had a brainstorm.

ME: You know, I've already laid out your clothes on the carpet, and your sparkly barrette. If you don't want to wear it some other child might.
THE LITTLE HEAD FREEZES IN A LISTENING POSTURE.
ME: I mean, it's just lying there and everyone else is in there playing, and who knows? One of them might pick it up.
THE CHILD PUSHES HERSELF OUT OF BED AS FAST AS DIGNITY WILL ALLOW AND TOTTERS INTO THE OTHER ROOM TO SAVE HER BARRETTE.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (stfu)
8:20 walk to work. Load dishwasher. Dress children.
9:30 walk with 2-yo by the hand over railway overpass to elementary school.
10. Undress children. Running-around-time in socks in a very cold, tiny, wood-floored gym. Dress children again.
11. Back to daycare. Undress children again. Unload the dishwasher.
11:30 Lunch. Load the dishwasher.
12-13. Do all the dishes from the daycare's bigger building using the industrial dishwasher.
13. Break... sort of... during which I had to put away the lunch dishes. (I sat down long enough to fix and drink two cups of tea in between doing stuff.)
13:45 Setting up snack for the big building.
14. Back to little building, talking 2-year-olds through diaper removal and dressing themselves.
14:30 My coworkers in the little building prefer to prepare snack themselves even though it's technically my job. Snacktime.
15. Chilling on the floor and occasionally saying things like "Come out of there" and "Don't throw that".

My work day technically ends at 15:45 but my coworkers tend to release me half an hour early, which I find reasonable because a) they don't need the extra pair of hands especially once kids start leaving and b) I don't get a real break during the day.

There's a windstorm warning and the wind was already blowing hard enough on my way to work this morning that it held me immobile with one foot in the air as I leaned into it trying to walk across the street. When I went outside again in the afternoon the sidewalk, road and park are littered with fallen branches, including several longer than I am tall. The children can't go outside this afternoon because of the big trees in the yard.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (crack)
I had a really long discussion at lunch today with my tablemate1 about what monkeys might or might not like to eat, with a firm understanding that bananas come first and then a lot of speculation building on that - do monkeys like chicken? Maybe they prefer fruit in general?

My conversational partner's imagination was really stuck on sauce (we had chicken breasts cooked in a sort of curry-colored, mild fruity sauce for lunch today. She said she liked it at first but she didn't eat much of it). Namely, do monkeys like it?

We talked about how in the wild monkeys don't cook so they don't get sauce; but plenty of monkeys live in captivity so they might eat sauces there (someone would have to ask a zoo employee for example, and she interjected excitedly "I CAN ASK!" "Yes, if you go to a zoo and meet a zookeeper"); but even if they don't already eat sauce, they might LIKE sauce.

She kept coming back to that:

"They COULD like sauce," she announced (several times).

"Yep."

"They might eat it."

"Yep, they might eat it if you give it to them."

"They might eat chicken and sauce."

"If monkeys eat chicken at all they might. I'm not sure if they do."

"They might just eat sauce, without chicken."

"That's true, they might. Lots of people like sauce. Maybe monkeys would too."

"Sauce might be tasty to monkeys."

"Yep, it might."


Etc.

Etc.

Etc.

I've never heard her talking about monkeys before, so I'm a bit curious where that came from.


1. I had two more tablemates, but one of them is monosyllabic because she's only mastered a couple of words, and the other was a 20-year-old substitute without any experience who was simply understandably shy.


I thought about bringing up that to my certain knowledge many monkeys eat insects, but my insect-related vocabulary in Finnish is slim and my coworkers are the type who react sensitively to insects and have weirdly exhaustive lists of things they apparently think you shouldn't discuss at the table, so I didn't want to risk it.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (huh?)
CHILD: Cim Cim Cim Cim
ME: What?
CHILD: Wasps aren't eaten.
ME: That's true. We don't eat wasps. It isn't a good idea.

SAME CHILD: Where did the siren car go?
ME: Right past us. Somewhere else, where there's probably an emergency.
SAME CHILD: Yes, somewhere far away. I saw a siren car and then a helicopter came and they arrested a monster.
ME: Wow... whoa, a monster?
SAME CHILD: Yes, a big monster. REALLY big. It was this big [Indicates a height of 3']

ADULT: Okay, we've got horses in the barn now, so what animal should live there next? Maybe a cow, or pig?
CHILD: BEAR!

CHILD, to me: Why do you always wear jeans?
ME: Um - I guess because I like jeans, but -
CHILD: Yeah but sometimes they should be taken off and washed though.
ME: Er, that's right. And that's why I do that. I have more than one pair of jeans.
CHILD: I have some jeans but my favorite pair are pink and they have a zipper AND a button.

CHILD, entering the room: AHHH, LOOK! LOOK WHAT THE NEW ADULT IS DOING! SHE'S DRAWING ON HER PHOOOONNNNNE!
ME: Hello.
CHILD: Why are you drawing on your phone?
ME: I like to draw.
CHILD, losing interest: Anyway here's my butt!
OTHER CHILD: And mine!
FIRST CHILD: HAHAHHA! EVERYBODY POINT TO YOUR BUTTS!
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (working)
Today at lunchtime a two-year-old who loves food was sitting next to me without eating at all and it turned out this was because he was falling asleep - literally nodding off in fact; couldn't keep his little eyes open. I spoonfed him a couple of bites and he ate them happily enough... and then his eyes closed again emetophobia, general grossout )

Then at afternoon snacktime the kids were eating bowls of fruit kisseli which is sort of like thin jam, or thick fruit soup (the dictionary offers "fool" and "dessert cream" which sound British and weird and also I had no idea what they were). And one of my two remaining tablemates grossness )

OH AND OKAY one of my coworkers in the Little Kid House is on vacay this week and I only met her substitute on Monday before getting sick the entire week, but I knew I would see her today as well on her last day, so when I walked in and there was a woman of the right general size and shape on the floor playing with a kid, I just assumed it was her.

So when she was like "Hey, good morning", I immediately fixated on her haircut and was like "Have you cut your hair?" which, surprisingly, kind of threw her into confusion.

She said "No," but it was more like "... ??? ??? No... ???" and we kinda stared at each other and she started to explain something along the lines of, "I've come here today..." and I was like

"OH! You're not [Substitute's Name]?"

"No... I'm X, the special education teacher assigned to this daycare..."

"OH, yes, I've seen your picture on the wall in the other building, that's why you looked familiar! Sorry..." I said.

And I mean, she wasn't mad or anything. I think. Just very, very confused.

But when I was telling the other work practicer about it at lunchtime I laughed until I cried.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (domestic)
So there's a Finnish word for "boo-boo" (which is pipi and that's a whole other story in terms of English-speaker associations lol) but I didn't know it. I'm now learning bits of babytalk at this daycare which I can use in Finnish, even though when I speak English I can't really make myself use that kind of language because I was only exposed to parental contempt for it as a small child and never used it myself at that age.

But when I first got here I didn't know and a few days in the two-year-old who constantly demands adult attention was like:

CHILD (in a trembly little voice): I'M BLEEDING
Me: Oh yeah, I see, do you have a small wound on your lip?


Well, she picked that up from me - the somewhat situationally inappropriate "wound", I mean (babytalk aside, it's not really a word that makes you think of a tiny scratch with a single drop of blood welling up, hence my attempt to modify it with 'small'). And ever since then she's been talking about the wounds she has (and once she told me that I had a wound on my face - it was a healing zit). These have included another split lip from the playground, a bruise, a scrape, a hangnail and a papercut. It always goes

CHILD: Look! Look, I have a wound!!


It's very cute because she's really really tiny and can't completely form the words correctly yet but she says it super super solemnly, all 0.0
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
So as the lone native speaker in an English "shower" (less than an immersion which in Finnish is a "bath", so it's a sort of pun) daycare where part of the paid service is using English phrases with children, should I correct my Finnish coworkers' mispronunciations?

I've noticed two so far, but I haven't corrected them. In one case she'd already taught all the children to pronounce "owl" OH-wl, and in the other she wasn't talking to the children at all and I presume she just said pudding ("POOdding") so any little eavesdroppers wouldn't realize we were having chocolate for snacktime and get excited in advance.

People feel quite differently about such things - some welcome it and some hate it - so usually I don't offer corrections without strong reason to believe the person would welcome it, usually when they've asked me to teach them something. But having been told that I was chosen for the work practice partly so they could get the benefit of my English skills (although the context for that was using them to talk to the children!)...?
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (stfu)
I got so much appreciation for overacted death-by-poisonings from some preschoolers today that they got overexcited and started throwing the plastic insects at me instead of "biting" me with them and I had to ultimately say,

"Girls - GIRLS! NO! - You know you aren't allowed to throw - DON'T THROW - STOP IT. No throwing toys and - STOP no pulling my clothes! Tugging on people's clothes isn't allowed!"

I didn't even get to use more than a tiny fraction of the potential overacted death impressions available to me, and apparently this activity is about as safe and sane for 4-year-old ingestion as a whole bag of Halloween candy all at once, so I suppose I won't be able to go back to it. Their tiny bodies just can't handle that amount of excitement I guess.
cimorene: A woman sitting on a bench reading a book in front of a symmetrical opulent white-and-gold hotel room (studying)
The work practice has been going for 2½ weeks now and I'd say I have settled in and am enjoying myself.

In the past, I have found younger children less interesting than the 1st-3rd grade schoolchildren I have also interacted with, because the latter are more cognitively complex, I suppose. This particular daycare has already got the full complement of assistants and practicers in the older children's group, though, so I am with the up-to-age-3 group except 2 hours during their naptime.

But surprisingly, my Finnish is enough better now that I communicate more easily with the small children. Also of course, there is less talking in this group (although there wouldn't be in a similar sample of under 3s from my family so I am always a little shocked by the relative untalkativeness of other young children: however, as always, there are a couple of complete chatterboxes who demand adult attention 100% of the time and more than make up for everyone else's comparative quietude).

The terrible twos are perhaps aptly named - I've witnessed several drawn-out, lying on the floor tantrums for utterly mystifying reasons1 which were quite difficult not to laugh at -, but I actually find the children in that stage more interesting than the ones that are just slightly older than them, because the age group around 3-6 for the most part aren't very interested in adults:

  • they are mostly uncurious about the presence of adults around them and the changes in the adult cast

  • most of them will accept adult participation in their play if offered but will not request it, but others are too shy to play with adults, even known ones

  • for most of them this lack of curiosity extends to obliviousness about being observed by adults and they not only don't notice if you are laughing out loud at them, which is a relief because my baby sister always did at their age, but many of them will say things directly in front of the adults in the room that are supposed to be secret from them ("I took this from the other playroom but don't tell anybody!" "Let's play that we're making food for her but really we put poison in it but don't tell her until after she eats it.")


There are a few unusual children who are equally as interested in interacting with adults - at their age, in demanding the adults play with them, where children of that type a bit younger just want any adult attention whatsoever and a bit older often want to be talked with and listened to instead. So mostly I'm not actually left with NOTHING to do, unless the adult-friendly children are asleep or playing outside, and then I have to make more of an effort to join in other children's play.

A few memorable conversations:

CHILD: I was afraid of it.
ADULT: You don't have to be afraid of shirts!

CHILD: This lion doesn't have the energy to live anymore.
OTHER CHILD: This game is cool!

CHILD (on play phone): What? (gasp) The Groke is going to EAT me?!
SAME CHILD (calmly): What a pity.

CHILD: What do you want?
ME: Can I have anything from the menu?
CHILD: Yep.
ME: A shortage, please.
CHILD: If you order that you'll be here all day!


Footnote: enumeration of tantrums:Read more... )
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (murder hurts more)
Last time on bureaucracy fail theatre, I had a Bosslady who wanted to take me as an intern in the "work practice" program (employer accepts unqualified workers for on-the-job training & doesn't have to pay them, the government gives the workers unemployment). I went to the unemplyment office with all the necessary paperwork, having been cautioned by Bosslady that depending on who I talked to, they might be difficult.

That was more than a month ago. Obviously at the height of Finland's biggest memorable unemployment crisis, it's important that people who have already found work practice positions should have to wait as long as people who need actual help.

The purpose of work practice is either

  1. As explained by the "No U Cant Has Job" camp: to find out whether you want a particular job, sort of like a test drive, so you can't have work practice for your former employers: you have already driven that car!


  2. or

  3. According to the website, the other camp, and logic: to find out whether a particular career or field is right for you, so that whether you can work somewhere depends on the commonsense difference between the case where a factory lays off its janitor and then wants to hire her back as a "work practice" gig, and the case where an adult who has worked as a substitute, oh, like, in some DAYCARE, is considering a permanent career change and wants more than a couple of weeks' experience on which to base the decision.


I had an argument prepared, but the caseworker didn't listen. In fact, she cut me off. Finnish people: they don't beat around the bush. So after a month of anxiety and depression I find my anxiety and depression... completely justified because I really can't go back to my dream job. Bosslady can't afford to hire another employee.

The caseworker was brisk and helpful about all kinds of other stuff, like the 20 pages I have to fill out to elaborate on the fact that I do freelance work but it does not exceed the minumum income for which you get taxed; the 20 pages to elaborate on how I am no longer in school because I QUIT; what kind of work I was thinking about (eg, the job that I have explained was the entire reason I went there); and whether I wanted to try work practice (idk, it's only the entire reason I came). And since I am interested in work practice - great! All I have to do is find a daycare to do the work practice at, that's fine (so it's fine for me to practice the exact job description, as long as I'm working for a different boss. AKA, you can work anywhere where they don't want you! That was the only English daycare in town.)

Aside from soliciting positions in Swedish daycares, she thinks my first item of business should be to learn Finnish (except this time hopefully it will stick! Maybe it will be for more than 1 hour a week and the teacher won't hate all students, thus inspiring in me a Pavlovian anxiety-response to the act of studying Finnish - you think? It could happen). The unemployment bureau offers their own, in-house Finnish courses! And even though they have a long waiting list they have no idea when the next one will be... but you can't take one from an alternate source that might have an actual schedule without your hypothetical unemployment benefits being cut off (mine don't start for 7 months anyway).

ETA: Besides not having the two twenty-page questionnaires available in English even though she is in the International Office (...), they don't even have them in Swedish, which is actually illegal in Finland. Two official languages? Hi, Finland! I'm the Swedish language! You contain 200,000 native speakers of me! You might recognise me because I've been in these parts SINCE BEFORE OLD GERMANIC TURNED INTO OLD NORSE.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (she wants revenge)
So, the deal with my daycare position is this:

Boss Lady can't quite afford to add an additional full-time employee to her staff, but she kind of needs one due to Laws & Stuff ). However, I'm new to the field, and thus eligible for Preparatory Training for Working Life where I'd be technically unemployed, and receive a salary from the state and not from the place where I'd be working.

So Boss Lady tells me I'll need my passport and work permit and any diplomas I might have, and that I need to be registered as an unemployed job-seeker and then see somebody for an appointment about setting the contract up. She warned me that she'd talked to some people with a not-so-good attitude and to try if I could get the one lady who made sense in a sea of badness, but Positive Attitude Lady wasn't in today - I saw her office shut and darkened when I was there, and the lady at the desk said that I can come back on March 6 with my papers, because they don't have any appointment slots available until then. o_O Are you fucking kidding me. The unemployment office doesn't have any appointments for SETTING UP EMPLOYMENT CONTRACTS for ONE MONTH?

[Choose one: laugh, cry]

I called for Boss Lady and ended up venting to Chav Girl, and we're going to try phone call badgering from both ends, but honestly what the fucking fuck!

Meanwhile, they're having to hire a non-native-speaker substitute to fill my job. Yeah. Nice.

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