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My continuing project to collect the significant bits of Ponder/Ridcully canon, although I should have most of it by now, if not quite all. Follows the post with the quotes from Hogfather.

1. The Last Continent: Rincewind brings The Wet to FourEcks and Ridcully, Ponder, and the Senior Wizards (plus Mrs Whitlow) arrive by way of a dimensional portal in the office of the long-lost Egregious Professor of Cruel and Unusual Geography... on a tiny desert island inhabited by an atheist creator god whom Ponder teaches about evolution and Mrs Whitlow teaches about sex. They get to FourEcks, via organic boat and then shipwreck, in time for Rincewind to save the day, and take him and the Luggage back with them. Read more... )

2. Night Watch: Night Watch is nearly exclusively a Vimes book, in fact, with a very occasional thread of Vetinari as per usual in a Vimes book, but it's framed with the wizards, because it's magic that accidentally catapults Vimes back in time. It also catapults Ridcully, in the bathtub, out into the yard. )

3. Unseen Academicals: Obviously this book's main thread is the wizards, although its primary protagonists are two non-wizard employees of the university, Nutt and Glenda, the respective best friends of Trevor Likely and Juliet, a dim-witted Discworldian recasting of Romeo & Juliet in hereditary supporters of rival footie teams. Nonetheless, it's pretty much the entire book that is relevant to Ponder/Ridcully, but I've picked out the most significant bits, at any rate. Read more... )
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The reason that I actually started rereading old Discworld books was because of Vetinari/Drumknott. As I mentioned before, I was converted to a Vetinari/Drumknott shipper at Yuletide this year despite not having thought about the pairing before, and was dismayed to find that the recipient of both (gen, UST, short) pieces, [livejournal.com profile] kindkit, was also the only person writing it. She's also made a resource post-cum-manifesto for the pairing that referred to several passages particularly in the Social Improvement of Ankh-Morpork books, which inspired me to reread Going Postal, Making Money, and The Truth.

But as I mentioned a few days ago, after the epiphany begun in The Last Hero, which reached its tipping point in Unseen Academicals, those three re-reads appeared to me in an entirely different light! Suddenly it was "I see Ponder/Ridcully!" left and right. I still don't know exactly how I feel about this: I like the pairing, okay, and I want crave to read it (glurk), but I am (1.) opposed to them actually having sex, not so much because it would be gross (I don't mind old man pairings per se: old people can have sex, that's fine with me!) as because I can't really reconcile the thought of them as sexual beings with canon; and (2.) a little put off by the fact that Ridcully is basically 100% my grandfather, which is intermittently very unnerving.

After The Truth I turned my attention to books with high Ponder/Ridcully content and reread:

  1. Soul Music. The book in which Hex is first introduced, and contains a sub-plot with the senior wizards getting addicted to Music with Rocks In and Ridcully and Ponder's attempts to investigate and deal with it. Cute, but the pairing would have to be at an infantile stage. They are more familiar later.


  2. Hogfather. The wizards investigate the random appearance of new occult personifications, starting with the Verruca Gnome, following the excess of belief provided by the Hogfather's temporary disappearance. Hex has grown fairly large and the wizard subplot is about half sock monsters and cheerfulness fairies and half computer jokes (Anthill inside!). Hex, of course, means Ponder.

    LET THE QUOTAGE BEGIN )
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It first happened when I read The Last Hero that I thought, "Hey, Ponder and Ridcully make a pretty funny double-act. You could almost see slash of them, haha! Yeah, right."

Then I read Unseen Academicals and it changed to "Wow, you could definitely read Ponder/Ridcully into this, if the idea weren't unappealing!"

Then I reread Going Postal and Making Money and it became "Well, it wouldn't be totally bad. Like, if it was just - you know - because their relationship - it's really rather sweet..."

And now I'm rereading Soul Music (which contains the first appearance of Hex, as well as a running joke about Wales, both of which I had forgotten) and I've accidentally come around to "I would totally read that."

Why is it always like this?
cimorene: closeup of a large book held in a woman's hands as she flips through it (reading)

    First, a new pairing. I'm a big fan of Discworld, and I've even read and recommended a couple of pieces of fanfiction for it in the past, but I not only didn't know of the existence of this pairing, it had never really occurred to me. Drumknott/Vetinari! It does make sense, though, and both the pieces from this Yuletide (although both are UST, and one leaned all the way over into potentially innocent friendship) were impressive and just really wonderful. I went looking for more at once, but there's very little of it out there (in fact, the only person I could find who'd written it was [livejournal.com profile] kindkit, and she was also the recipient of both these pieces. My heart goes out to her: it's such a drag to have a fandom of one. Hopefully many other people will have their attention caught by the pairing this Yuletide like I did, and more fic will eventually result.)

  1. Like Clockwork. Discworld, Vetinari, Vetinari/Drumknott, gen/UST. This is an exquisitely crafted, wistful little story. Using Vetinari's POV works incredibly well for it, too. It's so disciplined and restrained, even in the length of the story; everything is said with very few words and large portions of what it says it doesn't actually say at all, but leaves to be inferred.


  2. A Place Like Home. Discworld, Drumknott, Drumknott & Vetinari, friendship/UST. Another extraordinarily well-done little piece, but this one is all Drumknott. A Sunday off work with his sister's family, a gift for his geeky nephew, an awkward conversation with his sister, and his character really shines through it all. Drumknott's confidence and his ... unexpected closeness to the Patrician is just so sweet, calm, and understated. The whole piece is a cosy, heart-warming delight.


  3. Since there is only one other piece of Drumknott/Vetinari that I was able to find, it seems appropriate to rec it here as well.

    Midwinter by Kindkit. Discworld, Drumknott, Drumknott/Vetinari, mature, 16000+ words. Set during and after The Truth. A long, delicious, leisurely, exquisitely-executed slow piece. Drumknott's POV is fantastic, and there are lots of hilarious little details that make the narration sound like canon. Especially at the climax(es), the writing is just perfect, tense and dramatic and really touching. The really astonishing thing about this story is that it moves out of UST like the two Yuletide pieces into, well, sex, and actually carries it off for a pairing where such a thing is necessarily tricky. What it does with the rest of the relationship is even more fascinating, though.


    Another pairing that honestly hadn't occurred to me, but which I really enjoyed, was Bod/Silas from Neil Gaiman's Graveyard Book.

  4. Home is the Hunter. Graveyard Book - Neil Gaiman. Bod, Bod/Silas. A grown-up Bod, working as an architect, eventually moves back to his hometown to be near the graveyard.


  5. I'm quite a fan of Richard/Marquis de Carabas fic from Neil Gaiman's Neverwhere. I've seen it before of course, but it's a rare pairing partly, I think, because the Marquis is so tough to get a handle on, in such a way that it's much easier to write gen about him.

  6. A Very Big Favor. Neverwhere - Neil Gaiman. Richard Mayhew, Marquis de Carabas, gen or debatably UST. This piece is funny, adventure-filled, and perfectly captures that slightly confusing madcap-quest aura of canon, while still allowing Richard to be more confident, and less clueless, than he was in the book. It's also got some really wonderful dialogue and characterization, to say nothing of the really delightful bits of London Below, and the details it added about the Marquis were instantly added to my personal canon. A really awesome story.


  7. Lastly, another piece of Laurence/Tharkay from Naomi Novik's Temeraire universe. I have quite a soft spot for this pairing.

  8. A Voyage of Discovery. Temeraire - Naomi Novik. Laurence, Laurence/Tharkay. Three times William Laurence was oblivious on the journey to Australia. The slight sense of humor and the narrative voice in this piece were especially great, and Laurence's POV both believable and sympathetic. All three of the scenes are lovely.

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