cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (rock star)
These aren't all my Highlander bookmarks: there are thirty, which you can find all of here (pre-filtered). Not all thoroughly annotated, however. I have finished going through the archive for real this time (I know I said it before, but I went back through the first few pages just to make sure after that).

Under the cut please find Fiction by Aria (the historical romance about Duncan one), Little Blessings by pennywashburne, The Bark of Dante by Taz (Pompeii exhibit at the museum), Decisions on the Road to Damascus by Chris Quinton, The Parting Glass by Kat Allison, and The Dread Pyrate Methos by Taz (historical epistolary humor).


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Don't you love when some random tidbit makes you go "That doesn't sound right, but I have to go to Wikipedia to disprove it!" so you end up in a wiki spiral about cattle in Viking culture or the separation of West Virginia or the 18th century postal service?

Thanks to one of those moments claiming that Methos was "about as old as civilization", I can now declare with confidence that several Nile valley civilizations considered the precursors of dynastic Egypt existed in the 4th and 5th millennia bce, and while evidence from Mesopotamia is fragmentary, it's known that there were many city states there prior to the first known rulers around 2600 bce. Danubian or Linear Pottery culture dates to around 5500 bce and the oldest known civilization from China, the Jiahu culture, about 7000 bce. There's a Stone Age city in Turkey dating from around 7500 bce, and the Australian Aboriginal culture goes back to at least 50,000 bce.

Methos is about as old as Gilgamesh, though, slightly older, and around the age of cuneiform, which is still the earliest known form of writing.
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I've gone through AO3's whole store of this fandom now, not reading everything, but reading every header at least. I've also definitely established that some of the stories I remember are not online anymore, which is a shame - there seem to be quite a few authors who haven't transferred all their old writing, and only have more recent fandoms on AO3. I can sympathize. Actually I never put my popslash on AO3 for presumably the same reason, and I definitely have had my moments of doubt with other, more popular early works. Anyway, I may not be able to find much more Highlander to read (or rec) now, but I've been thinking I should perhaps try to collect examples which feel specifically the opposite of old school: like definitely contemporary, or modern, or recent, in their style. That might not be so easy though, since it would require rereading large bodies of things that I've already read fairly recently (not something I normally do).

Anyway, here are 10 more examples and my observations about them and what aspect of old slash style they seem to reflect. Background: Old Slash Scrapbook: 25 snippets from Highlander fic that are emblematic of the Old Slash aesthetic (from a couple weeks ago) and Rereading Highlander in the modern world from May 10th (contains a longer discussion of the idea of slash style in the comments).

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Behind the cut are links to Deep As You Go by Destina, The Matryoshka Principle by Amand_r, The Declaration by Aristide, Circle Dance by Chris Quinton, and Straight and Low by Esjay. Read more... )
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Disclaimer: Just because something is characteristic of Old Slash doesn't mean it doesn't appear in modern writing. Our present is defined by our past. Also just because something is characteristic of old slash doesn't mean it's not good: some of the fic I've quoted here is in my recs! The purpose of this collection is to assemble a hopefully-representative moodboard indicating the general trend or median characteristics of what I consider old slash as opposed to contemporary slash style. YMMV. I am far from innocent of these trends, having been writing in the period I now consider old slash myself.

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I'm using AO3's Export Bookmark function here and they take up a lot of space, so. Cut tag. Behind which are links to Strata by Kat Allison, Zig and Zag by merriman, Exposure by starcrossedgirl, Nothing but the Truth by carenejeans, Still Love by cupidsbow (as Thyme), and Social Graces by MacGeorge. Read more... )
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I found a fandom to reread: Highlander! I think this is working for me well partly because the last time I reread this fandom in any big way was years ago, but also because it's been quite a while since I reread any fandom this old.

(Definitely more Old Fandom than Due South, which to me marks a watershed point in the evolution into more modern media fandom. Highlander is in the same era/category as The Sentinel, I'd say. Smallville and SG1 overlap with Due South but for the most part feel less modern to me. There's a whole world of older fandoms too, of course. Star Trek springs to mind, but the online availability of the old stuff is pretty low. The Professionals is probably the most widely-available example, because they had that whole archive meticulously transcribed from old print zines, and now that's at AO3.)

When I looked at my bookmarks on AO3, there were only 4 in Highlander. In the past I've had tons more than this, bookmarks originally from the pre-archive era sites that I moved first to Delicious, then to AO3. I didn't realize so many had been lost in there - but a lot more old fic has made it to AO3 in recent years, so I'm looking for half-remembered fic now.

But I have found myself reading half or two thirds of something and then failing out (usually because the idea of a 400-year-old man dealing with m/m sex or sexual thoughts for the first time keeps reducing me to giggles and breaking the mood), when I know that I read it all the way through in 2004 and probably somewhere around 2009 (I didn't find that PLAUSIBLE in my 20s; I just enjoyed reading it to the end anyway).

The other thing that keeps distracting me, although not preventing me from reading, is remembering that Peter Wingfield retired from acting and is now an anesthesiologist. This fandom didn't really need any more sources of chuckles, but there it is.
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I've reread a bunch of SGA fic in the last two days, and every time I'm reminded about Don't Ask Don't Tell and marriage inequality, I get a little jarring moment of 'WEIRD!' Even though I lived through that reality, and that fandom, and the concerns were contemporary at the time!

I was rereading Highlander a bit a couple of weeks ago, and it's set during the period where the AIDS crisis was a thing! (Not that it's relevant to the magically healing characters really, but I guess the movement to make a big deal about condoms & lube was gaining quite a bit of steam around the late 90s to make up for all the years where no lube or condoms in fic was the norm.) Now I'm thinking... does the crisis make an appearance in Sentinel fic, where at least the characters are both human, or is it late enough (and AIDS enough of a downer) that it only appears indirectly, in the form of condom hygiene? I haven't reread a bunch of Sentinel fic in years.
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Slashiness vs Writing Quality Scatterplot #1
(Big version here)


Please click for the bigger version. This is based on data taken from two polls performed by [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine, with the data in my tables taken out on 22 Feb 2009.

This plot follows the same format as my earlier graph here, which, of course, did not have any Science behind it, only me squinting at the screen and placing the dots by the seat of my pants. I've reversed the axes in this one, however, so that better-written canons are at the top of the graph and gayer ones to the right this time. I prefer placing slashiness and quality on the two axes so that there's one data point per show and one show per data point, which lets the interaction be more easily seen.

(ETA: The clearest example of skewing I see on the plot is Highlander. LOTR might be skewed, too, by people's childhood memories or something, I guess. But Highlander? Look at it! IT HAS THE SAME QUALITY SCORE AS SGA. I'm pretty sure that it's not just my personal... weirdness, or whatever, that wants to ROFL at that. SGA is bad, but it's not that bad.)


It should be noted that mean is only one measure of central tendency and, at these sample sizes - which is to say they're all rather small but they vary from fandom to fandom - it's important to look at the others as well. To that end, here is the table I used to generate the graph:


(big version here)


Median and mode (ie, the most popular rating) are just as interesting as mean in their own ways. Scanning down the standard deviation columns, a few of those numbers will jump out as extremely large, representing a much higher degree of disagreement on the rating in question: the slashiness of Supernatural (no surprise where the primary pairing is incest) and the quality of Merlin (I'm kind of at a loss for this one but there it is), for example.

It's well worth checking out the results in the two posts of [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine's where I took the data because you can easily see the bell curves for some questions, and distinguish others where the distribution shows much higher or lower consensus. (The Science of Slashiness & Moar Science!)
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Damn, the new NCIS was good. And not only good, either - I mean, it was partly good acting, and it was partly better writing than usual, because it was really sparkling, and Michael whassname is really good at - you know, impressions, and being a bit of a goof, and comic timing - so I'm sure they wrote the ep for him, just to let him shine, as it were. But anyway, my point is that it wasn't just better written than usual, it was more gay than usual. Like, okay. In graph form,



NCIS is usually about as gay as Highlander, which is to say, amusingly gay, but not necessarily anything that your typical non-gay, non-slash-goggles-wearer would even pick up on; the realm of repeated humourous subtext, but without the intense focus on interpersonal relations, in a bromance way, that you find in Star Trek and the other higher-up shows on the graph (there are plenty of other shows, too, obviously, I just picked big fandoms that spring immediately to mind as benchmarks). It spikes occasionally, especially in s6, with spoilers ), but those spikes have heretofore, due to characterisation and camerawork (ie no lovingly lingering shots of the eyefucking, more like you have to notice it happening is a comic aside when the plot is focussed elsewhere), been still mostly at sub-Star Trek levels. Last night's episode was firmly up above Star Trek gayness levels, although still under Due South (it's hard to get as gay as riding off into the sunset together) - more like The Sentinel (other shows at TS's level of gayness: Merlin, Starsky & Hutch from what I have observed).

I keep refreshing my delicious subscriptions looking for episode tags because I'm too lazy to try to write one myself, but you could totally put a really awesome Gibbs/Dinozzo FT fic either directly after the events of the ep, or shortly after like a few days or weeks. Even though my personal canon places that earlier this season.

ETA: If you haven't seen it, go participate in [livejournal.com profile] thefourthvine's Scientific Poll on the subject!http://thefourthvine.livejournal.com/98874.html#cutid1 & http://thefourthvine.livejournal.com/99145.html#cutid1
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I started making this scarf in white for my sister. It is crocheted sideways, not end to end, and therefore starts with "chain 383". It makes it seem like it's taking longer because the rows are so long. I think it will be pretty cool, though.

Meanwhile, Wax was happily knitting away on the ribbed white legwarmers she is making for me (and when I say white, this is unbleached white sheep's wool so it's actually more of a rich warm cream colour) and we were discussing the Crazy's poor, naked little back and the upshot was that she put my legwarmer aside and started to knit a sweater for the Crazy instead. The theory is that the Crazy loves this particular fat wool so much that she will be delighted to have it attached to her tiny little body. We'll see.

I was reading more Highlander fanfic yesterday and then [livejournal.com profile] shiroi_chi posted about it too. Ahhh, Peter Wingfield! Ahhh, that one blue-lit scene that we watched 20 times in a row both backwards and forwards when he jumps out of bed and runs to the door shirtless with his sword! Too bad they can never go back and make any sequels now that he's old. Still hot, but you know... old. Which reminds me there was an episode of NCIS with a dude that looked quite a bit like him and I got all excited and OH LAST NIGHT WE WATCHED AN EP WHERE VASH, PICARD'S GF VASH, WAS A WALK-ON FOR LIKE 2 SECONDS! ♥
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my parents just emailed me another photo from france! here's [livejournal.com profile] wax_jism walking towards the shakespeare & company bookstore. i got more excited to see this than i did by many actual tourist attractions in paris. i hadn't actually realised that it was, er, a real place. ♥
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i need to stop posting to [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes and [livejournal.com profile] userpicks with my methos icons, because half the comments that way are about the icons and totally without any worthwhile content at all.  i wouldn't post to [livejournal.com profile] metaquotes, people, if what i wanted was reassurance that [livejournal.com profile] mace_m's capping and my iconing didn't make peter wingfield any less attractive.  i certainly wouldn't post about something totally unrelated if i wanted to discuss peter's hotness, especially in such profound and novel ways as "mmh".  discussing/squealing about his hotness in peson with [livejournal.com profile] shiroi_chi is more fun.
cimorene: cartoony drawing of a woman's head in profile giving dubious side-eye (Default)
it's sad but true that the "healing cock of the scottish highlands" icon cannot come into being without a good picture of methos in a tshirt, which i definitely don't have.  i'm not even sure there's one to be had.  he's always wearing sweats and sweaters and coats.  (damn the man.)

[livejournal.com profile] mace_m, is there a chance of the "gayer than your average gay bar" caps of duncan from "messenger"?

ahem

18 Feb 2005 02:47 am
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if you spent like three weeks reading and messing with screencaps and watching and squeeing about one fandom you would do this too.*imagining methos' clothes in the present day instead of the 90s. )

*provided you're also the kind of person who thinks about clothes.
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because this is a totally different story but it does the exact same thing with music. i just know that SOMEWHERE out there is a calm, reasoned paragraph about how duncan or methos has enjoyed the evolution of the backstreet boys, or evanescence.

Searching through the ample collection, he stopped on a Nick Cave album. It had been years since he'd last heard Cave; possibly since the time he'd seen Wender's Wings of Desire. Now that wasn't a bad film at all. The image of the singer made him smile. Did the man have a Messiah complex or something? The title intrigued him. Let Love In.here


okay, well, late queen isn't all THAT different from evanescence; it's just consciously, not unconsciously cheesy. with better lyrics. oh queen. ♥ there is ... uh... not THAT much evanescence on my highlander playlist. okay, maybe there is. shut up.

but i really liked that story, a lot. watch me! i'm reccing it. see?

adagio amidst the ashes, by illuferret; d/m, nc-17, post-series. a leisurely, lovely, very peaceful novella from duncan's point of view--my personal favourite mood and flavour in a story, sun-drenched and contemplative, slow and confident and inevitable. solidly, deftly written with some few small weak spots. never overly mushy: incredibly tasteful.
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i want:

+a story in which duncan and methos have only gradually been able to become comfortable together again, where they've gradually grown more physically affectionate than we see in the series, but set before they actually start having sex. set in the fluffy sunny happy time of pleasant anticipation. only mild angst would be remotely acceptable. ...maybe i've just had enough angst (something that's way easy to do in this fandom.)

+a story in which methos tells mac scathingly, and at length, how stupid he is. canon engendered this wish. the guy is just begging for a smackdown.

+a story without the phrase "his lover" in it one single time. (i know, dream on, right?)*

+a story in which methos is a sucky sword-fighter (fits canon evidence, even though it makes no sense whatsoever).

+a story in which methos doesn't pine or in any other fashion act like a wet noodle (or a teacup poodle, for that matter). i have no objection to his being unrequitedly in love or whatever. i mean, it's easiest to interpret canon that way, so have a party. but a hard methos! a sarcastic, witty, intelligent, opaque, often angry, cautious and untrusting methos--remember him? from on the screen?

+a story that's angsty, with dialogue that's in-character, WITHOUT melodrama. hahahahaha.

on another note: a passion that burned with the intensity of an entire city aflame. HAHAHAHAH.

*okay, i've probably even read one, but when you've read ten in a row that sprinkle it about like powdered sugar on lemon bars, they gradually erase the memory of the appositive-free fic until all that remains is blind, hating, style-policing editor's RAGE.

recciness

15 Feb 2005 03:40 am
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"She said that Duncan was the most handsome man she's ever met, and then she said he had the handshake of a limpet. Why do all these women compare Duncan to fish?"

"Mollusk, darling," he said, but at Gina's dark look he dropped the correction.
( string of pearls by tray--not going on the recs page, although it doesn't suck, because it doesn't go much of anywhere. cute though, esp. that bit.)

here's a story by the same author about witchcraft, which is interesting intrinsically, and amusingly handled. pg i think. deiseil.

and here's a rec that's actually going to make the page.

grace period by tray. d/m, pg pre-slash. other pov--anne lindsay's daughter mary, a teenager. the pov character is good--almost brilliant in spots, the story absorbing and--nice. not at all without tension, but without a big dramatic adventure plot.

eta: hahaha. "Methos doesn't seem to think it's all that important."

"Methos would act unconcerned if purple monkeys flew down from the sky."

"Yeah, okay."
(sublimation, pg, a weird-ass gathering story.)
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has anyone else noticed that methos has a really NICE belly button? observe icon.
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eleven songs and about a million icons )

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